This game has serious free-rider problems and it's getting worse. A suggestion.

[Wavaryen]

I mean some balance changes need to be made still? Yes some instance might need more tuning for duty finder.


But overall most of the places can be done, and as long as it gets done that is what matters. So I don't mind if I have to carry. I would not use Duty Finder if I wanted a high quality group. That is what LS and FC are for. Building a social network of people I want to play with to my standards.


We get rewarded for carrying people. So I don't see a problem at all in doing it.

[Nethereal]

I mean some balance changes need to be made still? Yes some instance might need more tuning for duty finder.


But overall most of the places can be done, and as long as it gets done that is what matters. So I don't mind if I have to carry. I would not use Duty Finder if I wanted a high quality group. That is what LS and FC are for. Building a social network of people I want to play with to my standards.


We get rewarded for carrying people. So I don't see a problem at all in doing it.

"High Quality group" = not wanting people to afk in your run.

We get reward for doing the content, not for carrying people. If we got rewarded for carrying people the people we carried wouldn't be getting the same reward as the one doing the carrying.

[Wavaryen]

"High Quality group" = not wanting people to afk in your run.

We get reward for doing the content, not for carrying people. If we got rewarded for carrying people the people we carried wouldn't be getting the same reward as the one doing the carrying.

Well that is how you feel. That is not how the game is design. Yoshi has made it clear what the design is. How we feel about it does not matter.


Wanting players to play better, or to even care is a hopeless battle. If you feel the rewards is not good enough for having to carry people. Again that is something to be said. Or certain duty finder dungeons need a nerf so you can carry easier? Sure, we can talk about that.


BUT how can you say that this is a problem, if the game is design for these types of people, and encourages them to just have fun? If your fun is ruined by these players. Than maybe this community is not for you.

[Nethereal]

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That's not how I feel, that's how it is.
There is no subjectivity here to say otherwise is to be intellectually dishonest.
You are rewarded for doing content, not for carrying people.

[Wavaryen]

That's not how I feel, that's how it is.
There is no subjectivity here to say otherwise is to be intellectually dishonest.
You are rewarded for doing content, not for carrying people.

The content is design to be done by players who are less skilled or don't need to try. Content gets done by these people. The roulette is design to reward for you doing easy content and yes even carry people. So you can say dishonest all you want, but when the devs says it time and time again how they design df content, and how they encourages players just to have fun in it. Not to worry about being carried or not. I think you have your answer. Accept it and move on.

[Nethereal]

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I don't know why you think I care how the content was designed or why you're so hung up on that strawman.

If player 1 does more work than player 2 or vice versa and they both get the same reward then you're not getting rewarded for carrying anyone, they're being rewarded for doing the content.

I don't mind if you advocate for equity but don't don't hide behind equality.

[Rinhi]

I don't know why you think I care how the content was designed or why you're so hung up on that strawman.

If player 1 does more work than player 2 or vice versa and they both get the same reward then you're not getting rewarded for carrying anyone, they're being rewarded for doing the content.

I don't mind if you advocate for equity but don't don't hide behind equality.

look at their post history

[Wavaryen]

I don't know why you think I care how the content was designed or why you're so hung up on that strawman.

If player 1 does more work than player 2 or vice versa and they both get the same reward then you're not getting rewarded for carrying anyone, they're being rewarded for doing the content.

I don't mind if you advocate for equity but don't don't hide behind equality.

Well if you don't care how the game is design, and the people who made the game states it is ok. That is a you problem not another player problem.

The head guy says that is what the system is for. What more proof do you want?