Why you can't kick people in combat?

[Awha]

What a thing to admit to


How does one become so miserable when playing a multiplayer game to a point that you would purposefully be an malicious nuisance to others in your group.

You are mistaken I am far from miserable I just put the enjoyment of myself and those close to me above everyone else. I generally view randoms in a game as nothing more then named NPC's.

I am just honest with myself and those around me I generally do not care much about the enjoyment of others I do not know if it comes at the expense of my own enjoyment and those close to me.

[Fellgon]

You are mistaken I am far from miserable I just put the enjoyment of myself and those close to me above everyone else. I generally view randoms in a game as nothing more then named NPC's.

I am just honest with myself and those around me I generally do not care much about the enjoyment of others I do not know if it comes at the expense of my own enjoyment and those close to me.

maybe a single player game fits better for your style. if you enjoy prejudice others players, thinks theyre npc or tools, theres a word for this: selfish.

[Awha]

maybe a single player game fits better for your style.

I play many types of games.

[Izar_Chillen]

You are mistaken I am far from miserable I just put the enjoyment of myself and those close to me above everyone else. I generally view randoms in a game as nothing more then named NPC's.

I am just honest with myself and those around me I generally do not care much about the enjoyment of others I do not know if it comes at the expense of my own enjoyment and those close to me.

Honest with yourself about what ?

If you care so little about people out of your line of sight , at the expense of others enjoyment , or even your own, are you really lying to yourself ? Have you tried to convince yourself to be this heartless , is just you being you , rather than succumbing to poor mental health?

That sounds quite like a personality disorder , of which there are many . Its is unhealthy to enjoy or pursue doing negative things for the benefit of your peers and to the detriment of strangers who many be directly or indirectly involved with you even momentarily.


Take break from these forums at the very least . Seek some medical advice , and I dont mean that in a derogatory way.

[Awha]

Honest with yourself about what ?

If you care so little about people out of your line of sight , at the expense of others enjoyment , or even your own, are you really lying to yourself ? Have you tried to convince yourself to be this heartless , is just you being you , rather than succumbing to poor mental health?

That sounds quite like a personality disorder , of which there are many . Its is unhealthy to enjoy or pursue doing negative things for the benefit of your peers and to the detriment of strangers who many be directly or indirectly involved with you even momentarily.


Take break from these forums at the very least . Seek some medical advice , and I dont mean that in a derogatory way.

You are saying it is wrong to maximize the happiness and enjoyment of myself and those around me? What reason do I have to care about the enjoyment of faceless beings I will most likely never meet or have any desire of meeting?

Yes, I do have ASPD I am being honest with those around me generally people know exactly where I stand. I personally view it is unhealthy to pay any mind how others perceive or think of your actions end of the day if person is willing to live with the consequences of their actions that is all that matters in my opinion.

Though people tell me I should care about others that I have no interest in caring about but no one has really ever gave a compelling reason outside it is the right thing to do. Right by maybe your and others standards but my own I really only care about what I care about. Not to say I do not think people should live by my standard they should live by what ever standard they feel most comfortable just be ready to live with the consequences of your actions. That is how I go about things.

Personally I do not have the headspace or desire to care about so many people, I get others do but for me it is generally not worth it.

[Nethereal]

I saw this when it was initially made and didn't really care about it but a simple solution is: Allow for queueing the vote kick during combat and loot. So you are allowed to initiate the kick but not allowed to vote until combat and loot is rolled.

This way it doesn't feel like you're fighting everyone in your party to click the kick before someone opens a chest or hits something.

[TeraRamis]

Because it would be far too easy to kick players who have done nothing wrong during the last boss to hog all the loot to yourself.

From the sound of things, not everyone agreed with you that the tank was leeching.

I'm so tired of this attitude in the playerbase - as if everyone is so eager to abuse mechanics, and, concurrently, that there aren't bad apples out there, every day, making life obnoxious for everyone. There's this wrongheaded notion that we should all just carry these people who are guiltlessly griefing the entire community because the alternative is 'mean.'

Well, I'd prefer mean to stupid any day.

[Vahlnir]

Honest with yourself about what ?

If you care so little about people out of your line of sight , at the expense of others enjoyment , or even your own, are you really lying to yourself ? Have you tried to convince yourself to be this heartless , is just you being you , rather than succumbing to poor mental health?

That sounds quite like a personality disorder , of which there are many . Its is unhealthy to enjoy or pursue doing negative things for the benefit of your peers and to the detriment of strangers who many be directly or indirectly involved with you even momentarily.


Take break from these forums at the very least . Seek some medical advice , and I dont mean that in a derogatory way.

Just...let this one go. Trust me, it's for the best. Having had this sort of debate with them before it's really not worth the headache it induces.

[Awha]

Just...let this one go. Trust me, it's for the best. Having had this sort of debate with them before it's really not worth the headache it induces.

In truth I do not understand why how I treat others is even a concern of others. Cause the reality is I doubt many really care much about others outside of their personal scope or think how their actions may negatively impact those around them in the future.

:P

[Jojoya]

I'm so tired of this attitude in the playerbase - as if everyone is so eager to abuse mechanics, and, concurrently, that there aren't bad apples out there, every day, making life obnoxious for everyone. There's this wrongheaded notion that we should all just carry these people who are guiltlessly griefing the entire community because the alternative is 'mean.'

Well, I'd prefer mean to stupid any day.

Who's saying everyone is eager to abuse game systems? Not me.

But I'm not going to act stupid and deny that it doesn't happen. I've seen it happen many times over the years I've been playing MMOs (one memorable occasion in WoW the raid leader disbanded the raid just as the boss hit 1% and the dots already on the boss would be enough to kill it). It's another one of those "it's why we can't have nice things situations" - there are enough untrustworthy players that developers have to put restrictions on everyone so those few have less opportunity to abuse the rest.

Laws and rules exists because some, not all, choose to abuse things for their selfish personal benefit at cost to others. Societies over the centuries have found that's not a good thing to allow and so laws/rules get created. Those who do the right thing are rarely negatively impacted and they've got protection when faced with those who choose to do the wrong thing.

If someone has been griefing your party, then initiate the vote kick as soon as combat has stopped. You've got a brief period after a wipe on a trial/raid boss to accomplish this. As long as the vote gets initiated before combat starts back up, others can cast their vote after it begins (I have seen the vote kick pass after the boss gets pulled).

If the rest of the group doesn't want to kick the troublemaker, then leave the group. I've done that myself on a few occasions. It's not worth the headache of sticking around and it's not like I'm going to lose my only chance to do the content.