SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

[OskarHelvig]

unfortunately special interest groups dont agree with that, they want to feel special by having something of their own
its why unofficial servers for certain things work real well, you can get everyone together still, but once they designate a server new and official all the special interests will run to it

Except when you don't have it recognized, communities spread around all servers and grow thin, and die out. To avoid that you need people on the same server. You just don't get it, being part of the majority non-RP playerbase, how essential it is to have all RPers on one server for the community to thrive, not to just linger, but thrive. Your arguments don't get too much traction because this ignorance of the topic at hand is evident in each post.

[TheVedis]

Except when you don't have it recognized, communities spread around all servers and grow thin, and die out. To avoid that you need people on the same server. You just don't get it, being part of the majority non-RP playerbase, how essential it is to have all RPers on one server for the community to thrive, not to just linger, but thrive. Your arguments don't get too much traction because this ignorance of the topic at hand is evident in each post.

Ok, so you have 2 choices in the end then

1) Go unofficial only and have everyone who joins attempt to flock to the server, and have a wide variety of players, not only RPists, and no one would get seperated from their friends ever since they wont be forced to move to an official server

2) Go official, everyone who wants to RP goes to the official server, those who do not want to sever ties dont, and then we hear complaints about how the community is now split because you were forced to make a chocie due to having a special interest group.


Either way, you end up with players complaining about 1 thing or another. Either they complain that the server isnt official(which it wont be cuz its unfair to force players onto an official server for a special interest) or you get complaints that people were split up(which is by choice since its your choice to go to an official server so you chose to be split from friends if you do it)



There is no ignorance, its all pretty much fact, people are already complaining about it(go look, seriously, they have) so its a lose lose situation for complainers
but either way, the RP community will survive, the difference is basicaly how you do it


The problem with your posts at this point is no matter what I say you will go out of your way to bash me, and thats not ignorance on my part, but just immaturity on your part. I have been giving ALOT of positive feedback but you apperently just dont care

[Rowyne]

The problem with your posts at this point is no matter what I say you will go out of your way to bash me, and thats not ignorance on my part, but just immaturity on your part. I have been giving ALOT of positive feedback but you apperently just dont care

TheVedis, it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

[TheVedis]

TheVedis, it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

1) I will now and forever call them RPists, sorry, but if you have no sense of humor thats not my fault
2) I only troll RPists who are at my linkshells spot in Uldah or who are in the middle of a damn camp(broken water mostly back in the day)
3) Ive been more then civil, and reasonable, and others bash me cuz i dont agree with their views, then i get called out as being in the wrong? Yeah, sounds like the 13 forums to me.

Dont look at my attitude, go back and seriously take a look at those who respond to anyone who doesnt agree with their views in these type of threads. People do not want discussions, they dont even want answers, they want praise, and I dont give that so im labeled as a forum troll, and the bad guy(i swear im not trolling people most of the time, and when i do, its usualy more in a comedic sense)

As ive stated in my views since the begining almost in this thread

If you want your own server, fine, dont force people into it though, this view is the most universaly fair to EVERYONE. And for posting it, i have instead been bashed by several people who are claiming its not fair they have to be the ones to transfer off due to them wanting something special done for them.

[Coglin]

it's difficult to see that positivity when you 1) amusedly call us RPists 2) openly admit that you troll roleplayers in public and 3) go on a tirade like this.

I've tried to defend what's fair for everyone, but with attitudes like this, it's hard not to prefer that SE officially designate Balmung the RP server and leave it up to the haters to transfer if they're not happy. I seriously can't see how an official designation would change your gameplay, other than make it harder for you to openly insult the RP community.

Yeah, thats kind of funny to me Rowyne, when several of us were on the side of RPers, and I for one made several posotive comments about my experiences with you folks on my server, just to be insulted, bashed and labels for disagreeing with you here. Any negativity you and your fellow RPist get from this point on from us, you brought on yourselves.

[Rowyne]

Yeah, thats kind of funny to me Rowyne, when several of us were on the side of RPers, and I for one made several posotive comments about my experiences with you folks on my server, just to be insulted, bashed and labels for disagreeing with you here. Any negativity you and your fellow RPist get from this point on from us, you brought on yourselves.

Your idea of positive comments is calling us 'haters' and 'bigots'? That's when people got on the defensive with you.

(And trust me, I would love to link your post, but the forums mods deleted it. However, I am sure there are several people in this thread who would be happy to corroborate.)

[Coglin]

Your idea of positive comments is calling us 'haters' and 'bigots'? That's when people got on the defensive with you.

(And trust me, I would love to link your post, but the forums mods deleted it. However, I am sure there are several people in this thread who would be happy to corroborate.)

Yeah, there were 5 threads ahead of this one. That was not my first post on the topic.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...776#post545776

here is a sample of my previous comments and position before sepreratist such as yourself took to flaming me for simply believing there was no need for a RPist server.

You for one have been as bad as anyone else for taking effort in looking to insult and bash anyone who disagrees with you. Fairly hipocritical of you to fling hate my way, and the way of those I play with in game, or generally agree with there perspective on this subject.

I was very clear to point out previously that I was supportive of RPist in general, and in my previous comment. You have continues to push the issue of hate and insults. So basically, your post targeting and insulting individuals are still here but you wish to bach me for one that does not exist, how big of you.

[Rowyne]

Yeah, there were 5 threads ahead of this one. That was not my first post on the topic.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...776#post545776

here is a sample of my previous comments and position before sepreratist such as yourself took to flaming me for simply believing there was no need for a RPist server.

You for one have been as bad as anyone else for taking effort in looking to insult and bash anyone who disagrees with you. Fairly hipocritical of you to fling hate my way, and the way of those I play with in game, or generally agree with there perspective on this subject.

I was very clear to point out previously that I was supportive of RPist in general, and in my previous comment. You have continues to push the issue of hate and insults. So basically, your post targeting and insulting individuals are still here but you wish to bach me for one that does not exist, how big of you.

Oh, dear Menphina, please forgive me for even responding to this trollbait.

And, no, I'm not saying you're trolling for having a different opinion. I'm saying you're trolling because you used a classic troll tactic.

You came into this thread. You skimmed over the posts and identified several of the major players (it wasn't necessary to clearly know what they were posting since what you were about to say would most likely be contradictory anyway). You then specifically picked out me (a light RPer), Tessa (another RPer), Oskar (a heavy RPer), Rhomagus (a non-RPer but friend to the community) and Brigandier (a non-RPer and non-friend to the community). Five people with different points of view. You then said that we should be exiled to our own server with all the other 'haters' and 'bigots'. You picked random inflammatory terms, hoping to get a rise out of us. But what actually happened was a whole lot of crickets chirping and people looking at you oddly.

Again, the forum mods deleted it (and a couple of the responses that quoted it) because it was inappropriate, so I can't link it, but if you start reading here, you'll find a few responses that remain. Nobody flamed you for your opinion, but they did get defensive over your blanket insults.

I'm not a separatist, since I have stated more than once I would much prefer that Balmung be granted a RP server tag and be done with it. I would love to see our community stay together, RPers and non-RPers alike. All the official designation does is make it easier for other roleplayers to find the community and give those opposed to a RP environment fair warning that they might want to choose another server. But TheVedis has been very vocal about the fact they believe it's unfair that they should have to transfer because they're uncomfortable with an official tag (believe it or not, I begrudgingly respect that opinion even if I don't agree with it). And given the route being taken with Ragnarok, SE may see it that way, as well. While a new server isn't my preferred option, it's what I will choose if that's where the RP community is going to go.

I have flung no hatred or insults. I haven't bashed you for your opinion (can't say the same for you, however, as 75% of your posts on these forums call people fools, idiots, morons, stupid, or other such demeaning names). Of course, I do appreciate that you posted something positive about the RP community. But I will tell you the same thing that I told TheVedis, those positive remarks are quickly invalidated by a few choice insults.

[Rjain]

I've come to find it slightly amusing that the only time I post on these wretched forums is when I see something so incredibly asinine that I just have to throw the spotlight on it. But I think these two things take the cake.

1) I will now and forever call them RPists, sorry, but if you have no sense of humor thats not my fault
2) I only troll RPists who are at my linkshells spot in Uldah or who are in the middle of a damn camp(broken water mostly back in the day)
3) Ive been more then civil, and reasonable, and others bash me cuz i dont agree with their views, then i get called out as being in the wrong? Yeah, sounds like the 13 forums to me.

Yeah, thats kind of funny to me Rowyne, when several of us were on the side of RPers, and I for one made several posotive comments about my experiences with you folks on my server, just to be insulted, bashed and labels for disagreeing with you here. Any negativity you and your fellow RPist get from this point on from us, you brought on yourselves.

Man you two are some pieces of work. I suppose we should all kneel to your benevolence that you found it somewhere in your beautiful hearts to make a generous emotional contribution and support the community, but now that someone made a point everyone should be ashamed, and you will now continue to be jerks. When you were jerks in the first place.

Sometimes I wonder how people like this go through life actually living. I like to pretend that there's some sort of air pump attached to them that allows them to keep breathing, or they have some sort of person that has to supervise them at all times so that they don't end up stabbing themselves in their own eyes with a fork.

This is why we can't have nice things. Where'd all the nice people go?