Thank you Square Enix for banning the griefers harassing Asmon. Faith restored!

[Lanadra]

Don't see why it would be anything else. He probably has enough common sense to understand that what he encountered doesn't represent the entirety of the community and that creating such a comment based on such limited interaction just adds fuel to the fire. - Of course he was going to get swamped, probably not the first time he's had it in a game, and probably won't be the last either

Oh I definitely understand that and agree. I'm just getting a little tired of all these 'gcbtw' band wagoners taking every possible opportunity to try and prove just how toxic the FFXIV community supposedly is. We all knew Asmon was going to get swamped both from members in our community who are either fans or are looking to make him quit, as well as his own community swarming in. Yes it reflects badly but it's just as important to see how that kind of shit is being dealt with.. and from the look of it, it's being dealt with well.

[SturmChurro]

I just wish more in the community were as great as our GMs, I still remember the whole ERP PF debacle. Some were even calling for the GM in question to be fired*, if I recall correctly.

[Kaurhz]

Oh I definitely understand that and agree. I'm just getting a little tired of all these 'gcbtw' band wagoners taking every possible opportunity to try and prove just how toxic the FFXIV community supposedly is. We all knew Asmon was going to get swamped both from members in our community who are either fans or are looking to make him quit, as well as his own community swarming in. Yes it reflects badly but it's just as important to see how that kind of shit is being dealt with.. and from the look of it, it's being dealt with well.

People will always take that cute little bandwagon as they seem to be of the mentality that cherry-picking the examples makes the community wholly toxic. I've seen an uproar of people on here scolding the community for its actions, yet not appraising the actions of those that have more than likely contributed to these reports having action being taken. But nah of course we're all still just completely and utterly as toxic as ever. That is not to say we don't have toxic circles, every game does.

Seemingly as people try to evangelize the community on social media, but conversely, there's an equal proportion on here that want to take up the crusade that everything is doom and gloom. I find a certain level of irony in this especially since some people in the latter prancing around in the GCBTW crusade have also on occasion been in the same crowd that is too afraid to even use say chat. Because apparently, the act of having a pulse and putting fingers on the keyboard is a bannable offense to them.

[van_arn]

I just wish more in the community were as great as our GMs, I still remember the whole ERP PF debacle. Some were even calling for the GM in question to be fired*, if I recall correctly.

That gm is a hero.

[Rae88]

People will always take that cute little bandwagon as they seem to be of the mentality that cherry-picking the examples makes the community wholly toxic. I've seen an uproar of people on here scolding the community for its actions, yet not appraising the actions of those that have more than likely contributed to these reports having action being taken. But nah of course we're all still just completely and utterly as toxic as ever. That is not to say we don't have toxic circles, every game does.

Seemingly as people try to evangelize the community on social media, but conversely, there's an equal proportion on here that want to take up the crusade that everything is doom and gloom. I find a certain level of irony in this especially since some people in the latter prancing around in the GCBTW crusade have also on occasion been in the same crowd that is too afraid to even use say chat. Because apparently, the act of having a pulse and putting fingers on the keyboard is a bannable offense to them.

When this started happening I said a small section of the FFXIV community has embarrassed us by behaving terribly in front of hundreds of thousands of viewers. Since then we've had people try to rationalise the griefing, dismiss the griefing, and countless other things which has helped blow this issue up as well but it's nice to be able to come full circle and say, after a couple of days of talking this out, good job to that small section of FFXIV players who embarrassed us in front of a couple of hundred thousand viewers a few days ago.

Also a genuine great job to the people who helped report the griefers, and the GMs who are on top of the issue. I hope it continues.

One thing that's happening is with a couple of big streamers coming over, more and more people will feel it's a viable game to stream. There's a huge Spanish streamer streaming FFXIV atm adding 40k viewers to twitch. Which just gets more eyes on the game and hopefully more people into the community which is always a good thing

[Sotaris]

I think 9 days is not enough, should been longer or perma. Make an example out of these people. Regardless how you feel about Asmongold and wow players moving over to FF14 -- this shit shouldn't be accepted or tolerated on any level.

[twixelstix]

Regardless how you feel about Asmongold and wow players moving over to FF14 -- this shit shouldn't be accepted or tolerated on any level.

This is something that is confusing me, maybe I'm just not seeing it in any of my social circles or Discords, but I've legitimately not seen a WoW refugee in this game be criticized because they're coming over from WoW. I've seen people crap all over WoW, but I've only ever seen people welcome WoW refugees with open arms. Where is all of this hatred towards WoW players moving to FF14 happening?

[Sotaris]

GCBTW dictates that all is the fault of the horribly toxic FFXIV community. Asmongold has no fans/viewers that would do weird shit to or around him. It's all toxic FFXIV players who want him to quit asap. /s

I don't think anyone been saying it's only FF14 players wanting him gone but there is more than a few.

This is something that is confusing me, maybe I'm just not seeing it in any of my social circles or Discords, but I've legitimately not seen a WoW refugee in this game be criticized because they're coming over from WoW. I've seen people crap all over WoW, but I've only ever seen people welcome WoW refugees with open arms. Where is all of this hatred towards WoW players moving to FF14 happening?

There is a handful of documented cases. Biggest one the comes to mind is ScottZone.
But I personally seen people bitching at wow players for suggesting transmog into FF14 or having better pvp, more raid tiers etc -- you know stuff that would make the game better with responses "go back to wow we don't want you here" (paraphrasing).

Also the news about Asmongold joining the game has hardly been with open arms, there been plently of people both here and other social media platforms who been quite toxic and the opposite.

[eaudaemon]

When this started happening I said a small section of the FFXIV community has embarrassed us by behaving terribly in front of hundreds of thousands of viewers. Since then we've had people try to rationalise the griefing, dismiss the griefing, and countless other things which has helped blow this issue up as well but it's nice to be able to come full circle and say, after a couple of days of talking this out, good job to that small section of FFXIV players who embarrassed us in front of a couple of hundred thousand viewers a few days ago.

Also a genuine great job to the people who helped report the griefers, and the GMs who are on top of the issue. I hope it continues.

One thing that's happening is with a couple of big streamers coming over, more and more people will feel it's a viable game to stream. There's a huge Spanish streamer streaming FFXIV atm adding 40k viewers to twitch. Which just gets more eyes on the game and hopefully more people into the community which is always a good thing

This is what I felt over the weekend, I'm just glad they got banned hopefully it serves as a lesson to those entitled people that think they can say who gets to play the game.

[BloodLotus]

I enjoy his discussions since I hold similar values in a different game, and seeing him get harassed freely made me sad.

But it was a great relief when I read about this. It makes me much more comfortable interacting with the community when it comes time to create a static or do more than just grind the MSQ