Thank you Square Enix for banning the griefers harassing Asmon. Faith restored!

[Fyrebrand]

GCBTW dictates that all is the fault of the horribly toxic FFXIV community. Asmongold has no fans/viewers that would do weird shit to or around him. It's all toxic FFXIV players who want him to quit asap. /s

Correct, this is the law of GCBTW. Even when it happened to him in World of Warcraft, it was the Final Fantasy XIV community. The FFXIV community is so bad it transcends games. Such devastation is their intention.

Meanwhile, the ones who reported the trolls/griefers to Square Enix were in no way FFXIV players. They were card-carrying members of the sensible and mature Bureau of Asmongold Likers and Defenders (or BALD for short). Clearly, one of them was monitoring the stream to comb for bad behaviour. They must have created an FFXIV account for the sole purpose of reporting the ne'er-do-wells to Square Enix, then promptly uninstalled so as to avoid any appearance of participating in this degenerate game.

[Linadae]

I think the reason it got so bad this time with Asmongold, is because we have four factions actively fighting about him playing. We have his fans who just want to hang out no matter what game he plays, his fans that insist he ONLY plays WoW and will go out of their way to make him miserable any time he plays something not WoW, FFXIV players who wanted to welcome WoW’s biggest streamer to their game, and FFXIV players who don’t want him here and will do anything possible to get him out of FFXIV (including using performance to try to get his YouTube channel removed).

You even saw this in his chat with a subset who consistently gave him blatantly wrong information so often that he stopped listening to chat.

[Conundrum]

Correct, this is the law of GCBTW. Even when it happened to him in World of Warcraft, it was the Final Fantasy XIV community. The FFXIV community is so bad it transcends games. Such devastation is their intention.

Meanwhile, the ones who reported the trolls/griefers to Square Enix were in no way FFXIV players. They were card-carrying members of the sensible and mature Bureau of Asmongold Likers and Defenders (or BALD for short). Clearly, one of them was monitoring the stream to comb for bad behaviour. They must have created an FFXIV account for the sole purpose of reporting the ne'er-do-wells to Square Enix, then promptly uninstalled so as to avoid any appearance of participating in this degenerate game.

Are we still pretending all those people harassing him with endgame mounts...or mounts at all for that matter and relic weapons were somehow not part of GCBTW?

Seriously, you aren't going to convince anyone except those already tempered to FFXIV.

/wonders if Alisaie and Angelo can cure them.

[Kyuuen]

Are we still pretending all those people harassing him with endgame mounts...or mounts at all for that matter and relic weapons were somehow not part of GCBTW?

Seriously, you aren't going to convince anyone except those already tempered to FFXIV.

/wonders if Alisaie and Angelo can cure them.

And are we also pretending that Asmon himself has not in the past stated on more than one occasion that people that are a part of his community have been badgering him to play XIV?

Why is it all of sudden these people are forgotten and the sole blame placed squarely on the XIV community? Or is it a thought that Asmons community doesn't play XIV, but just wanted to see him play it despite their disdain of the game?

There were bad faith actors on both sides of the line and this 'this side' vs 'that side' bs needs to be dropped, along with the generalizing of each side.

[Conundrum]

And are we also pretending that Asmon himself has not in the past stated on more than one occasion that people that are a part of his community have been badgering him to play XIV?

Why is it all of sudden these people are forgotten and the sole blame placed squarely on the XIV community? Or is it a thought that Asmons community doesn't play XIV, but just wanted to see him play it despite their disdain of the game?

There were bad faith actors on both sides of the line and this 'this side' vs 'that side' bs needs to be dropped, along with the generalizing of each side.

Because he has a right to play the game no matter whether you think his reason is valid or not.

Also, you continue the time honored tradition of ignoring what everyone keeps telling you, the people doing the harassing are long time players with endgame mounts and gear. Ignoring it isn't making us forget that, it's just making you all look disingenuous.

Personally I think the haters are pissed because neither he nor his viewers are shitting on the game. It's destroying the hate filled narrative that they tried to spin.

It's amplified by the fact that almost 100% of the bad behavior is coming from the FFXIV community.

It's also destroying the narrative of FFXIV having some sort of ascended amazing community.

Either way, I'm done here, going to go finish 5.55 on my alt.

[Kyuuen]

Because he has a right to play the game no matter whether you think his reason is valid or not.

Also, you continue the time honored tradition of ignoring what everyone keeps telling you, the people doing the harassing are long time players with endgame mounts and gear. Ignoring it isn't making us forget that, it's just making you all look disingenuous.

No, I'm not ignoring it at all. I'm pointing out the fact that members of his community also play and may also be 'long time players' that you seem to like to disregard, but by all means condescend more. Moreover, I said nothing to his welcome into XIV, personally don't care what games he plays or chooses not to.

Personally I think the haters are pissed because neither he nor his viewers are shitting on the game. It's destroying the hate filled narrative that they tried to spin.

It's amplified by the fact that almost 100% of the bad behavior is coming from the FFXIV community.

And there it is again. XIV community and only it's community, nobody else can possibly be at fault just the XIV community at large.

Either way, I'm done here

Cool, that's two of us, especially if you're going continue to project your disingenuousess on to me.

[Fyrebrand]

Are we still pretending all those people harassing him with endgame mounts...or mounts at all for that matter and relic weapons were somehow not part of GCBTW?

There is no need to pretend anything. Yeah, that dingus in the whale mount was a Final Fantasy XIV player. No one is denying that. Like in any game, some players are bad actors and we ought to acknowledge them when they appear. Report them accordingly. Call them out, or talk about it wherever you want. Just don't generalize about how they represent the "FFXIV community" in any meaningful sense.

I literally tried to point out that the people who reported the griefer must have been FFXIV players, but you don't seem to want to pay attention to that because it doesn't help build your narrative.

I didn't go and grief Asmongold. Did you? Are we not members of the FFXIV community? I'm sure most of the Cactuar server didn't bother Asmon either, nor did the players on literally every other server in North America, Europe, and Japan. The people actively trying to disrupt his stream represent such an infinitesimally small proportion of the FFXIV population, that they are barely worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things. And yet, you and some of the other "GCBTW" memers seem utterly obsessed with using these radical edge cases as evidence that FFXIV players as a whole are the worst people on the internet.

Also, it doesn't help that the creator of this very forum thread is a known troll who promotes this "GCBTW" garbage, and in other threads they pretend not to know who Asmongold is, or else whine that random players in Duty Finder dungeons don't play as well as they'd like. I don't want to be the pot calling the kettle black here, but it's almost like there's some link between those who cry "GCBTW" and those who are the actual toxic elements of the community.

[Rae88]

literally tried to point out that the people who reported the griefer must have been FFXIV players, but you don't seem to want to pay attention to that because it doesn't help build your narrative.

People in the FFXIV reddit discord was talking about speaking with the person who reported them. I think we can thank the FFXIV reddit community for quite a few of the reports maybe

#ThankYou

[Kes13a]

People in the FFXIV reddit discord was talking about speaking with the person who reported them. I think we can thank the FFXIV reddit community for quite a few of the reports maybe

#ThankYou

I am sure the fact that they have FFXIV in their discord title makes them toxic too
lately the theme is, "if its FFXIV, its toxic and bad"

its like they have nothing else in their life to complain about
if FFXIV is that traumatic and awful in your life, take a break. no one should fault you for taking a break, stepping away for a bit

at the end of the day its a game, and games should not make you feel like this, nor the people in them.

[Neoyoshi]

This is getting kind of weird now. I look forward to this crazy fever-dream to end.