The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[ReynTime]

So wait a second.

Some people were telling me some time ago that Asmongold was this "trash human being" and "they were making fun" or "saying horrible things about Soken's speech". So knowing that there is a side of the internet that loves to do witch-hunts based on hear-say that they don't bother verifying themselves I went to check the vod personally.

And guess what... Asmongold LIKED the speech, genuinely pleased and shocked by how the staff handled the situation, thought the story was really cool, and even commented on how he liked the way they addressed the fans in how they acted in the stage.
So where was these "horrible" things? Well... so, Asmongold's chat rolls at like 50 miles per hour. Obviously, when you have like 50k+ viewers. I had to literally PAUSE the video to find said horrible things. Sent in the chat by random stray people here and there.

So basically, it had nothing to do with him. Because good luck trying to spot every negative thing in a ludicrously busy chat even if you're a mod. Asmongold didn't read it, probably didn't have time to notice it, and if he did, he didn't even aknowledge it. And that makes him a trash human being?

Honestly, so far, and I don't know much about him prior to all this, he seems to be enjoying the game, positively impressed by the PR and the passion of the staff, and generally having a good time. I really don't see what's so terrible. He can't babysit his viewers. He already tries to tell people not to harass anyone.

[Rae88]

So wait a second.

Some people were telling me some time ago that Asmongold was this "trash human being" and "they were making fun" or "saying horrible things about Soken's speech".

Anybody who says Asmon was saying horrible things about Soken or his speech is flat out lying to push an agenda. It's not even a small lie either.

[Eien713]

I kinda figured it had to be intentional. Like, I've understood 'Asmongold' is most definitely a role being played live so yeah. I've been watching him do stuff in FFXIV for a few hours now and I definitely get what people meant a while ago when they expressed that they hoped he'd play FFXIV off stream as.. well, Zack, himself, rather than as 'Asmongold'. He'd probably be able to take his time a bit more and understand things if he weren't streaming it and primarily experiencing the game through his stream persona.

I totally agree. I can't help but feel it's a shame he ultimately went with streaming the game instead of playing it offline since I'm positive he'd have gotten more into it as himself and without the distraction caused by his chat. But, hey, it's his choice. Even if he ends up not liking the game/story, I honestly think it doesn't matter. The game doesn't need his approval or validation. It just may end up not being his cup of tea. This doesn't take anything away from the game itself, and it definitely won't make anyone who loves or enjoys the game love it or enjoy it any less.

[Lilyth]

Well it has begun.

There are already screenshots circling around about some players getting suspended for disrupting other people's gameplay. Good on you SE.

[Kolsykol]

Anybody who says Asmon was saying horrible things about Soken or his speech is flat out lying to push an agenda. It's not even a small lie either.

Sadly this is true in a lot of cases.
One of my favorite streamers who does a lot of political debates was labeled a Transphobe because he used a Trans slur *when describing how someone might use a Trans slur without realizing it*, and they left that VERY important context out.
Same person who spread that lie that everyone believes then proceeds to casually use Trans slurs against someone else actually meaning to be offensive themselves lol.
Same thing happened with the N-word for the same person, and now it has been framed as '' he says the N-word all the time ''.

The reason why that happens to this person is because he has a lot of enemies because he doesn't align with either of the extreme and obnoxious '' sides '' in the US political terminally online climate.
So everyone wants to tear him down including screwing him over and causing problems irl too.
I think it's sorta the same with Asmongold too, a lot of Twitch streamers have jumped on that bandwagon because it's good for networking and exposure.
And there's this mentality of '' you can only be with us or against us '', so those people view him as some crazy alt-righter or something by default.

[EtherRose]

It's nice to see he's having fun and his chat ain't being dumb about it. Although, if I was him I would be very annoyed at all the people constantly following me around every where. Let him play his way and experience everything as he wants.

[Liam_Harper]

I've checked a few of the streams lately out of curiosity and expected to dislike it because of the endless posts about "WoW persona" and a rabid fanbase, but to be honest I haven't really seen it. He openly voices when he thinks something sucks and his chat are a fairly standard twitch chat but overall it's just a regular stream, excessive abuse isn't encouraged and he seems to be having fun with the game and is being fair with it.

I'm surprised people are so grumpy about his crowd of fans. A bit of queue time isn't the end of the world and it's nice to see it as an event of sorts to break the monotony of log on, roulette, log off. Sure the crowd jumping about with shiny weapons are a little childish, but the majority of it is harmless excitement. I imagine he doesn't mind it overall because it's a part of what MMO's are about, sharing an open fantasy game environment with thousands of other people. I'm glad they're all having fun being silly and making the most of it.

I'm also impressed he's made a stream about ARR questing so popular. Most of us believed it'd never work, but he's capturing that new-game excitement well. 150k viewers is massive, it's brilliant advertisement for the game and overall it's just a positive. Credit where credit is due.

[Nothv13]

I'm also impressed he's made a stream about ARR questing so popular. Most of us believed it'd never work, but he's capturing that new-game excitement well. 150k viewers is massive, it's brilliant advertisement for the game and overall it's just a positive. Credit where credit is due.

One thing I've noticed from watching many of the new FFXIV players that came from WoW on youtube and twitch is that they actually enjoy the ARR quest experience. As a FFXIV player we are quite jaded to the experience due to having gone through it and now viewing it as simply a roadblock, however new players from a game that handles leveling differently have a much different look on it.

[Kolsykol]

Annoying stalkers ingame and twitch chat in a nutshell: https://clips.twitch.tv/InventiveEnt...-c6UAe3ldEumqg

[linayar]

I'm also impressed he's made a stream about ARR questing so popular. Most of us believed it'd never work, but he's capturing that new-game excitement well. 150k viewers is massive, it's brilliant advertisement for the game and overall it's just a positive. Credit where credit is due.

One thing I've noticed from watching many of the new FFXIV players that came from WoW on youtube and twitch is that they actually enjoy the ARR quest experience. As a FFXIV player we are quite jaded to the experience due to having gone through it and now viewing it as simply a roadblock, however new players from a game that handles leveling differently have a much different look on it.

I've always felt that people should not immediately "badmouth" ARR when introducing the game to others.

I understand the desire to "set expectations" so others can get through it, but people are different, and some can actually enjoy it, like I did my first time, when left to make their own judgment about it.

And to be fair, Asmongold is not done yet with ARR, so things could still go sideways (if it hasn't already), but it's up to him to decide that.