Can we get normal manly males ?

[lezard21]

If nothing else, the XIV forums taught me that I do not nor will I ever understand what "normal and traditionally manly" means.

It's easy. Show 100 people these 2 pictures and ask them which one they consider more manly, whichever gets more votes it's what's considered normal and traditional in this western areas.



VVVV I edited my post to better represent the point