Fix Housing Megathread

[Thorncraft]

I'm not sure I understand this part. Can you run this past me again?

No problem, if you want to relocate, the first timer allows those with land to do so, but that is the only window for Relocations. As a buyer you'll know you don't have to stand there while the plot is ONLY under the Relocation phase (it'll say on the placard), you'll also know that once Relocation phase is over it'll be another 4 hours before the invisible timer starts and lastly the new invisible timer is only 8 hours long.

[ItMe]

No problem, if you want to relocate, the first timer allows those with land to do so, but that is the only window for Relocations. As a buyer you'll know you don't have to stand there while the plot is ONLY under the Relocation phase (it'll say on the placard), you'll also know that once Relocation phase is over it'll be another 4 hours before the invisible timer starts and lastly the new invisible timer is only 8 hours long.

Interesting idea, but why the 4 hour wait between relocation phase and hidden buyer timer phase?

[Thorncraft]

Interesting idea, but why the 4 hour wait between relocation phase and hidden buyer timer phase?

Just something that seems SE would do anyways. It gives the buyer more of an opportunity to identify a potential plot. Extends the turn around time of a plot being relinquished/bought. If you remove that window the minimum time for buyer to buy a plot goes to 10 hours minimum and maximum of 22 hours. I would guess SE would like maybe a 24-hour period of timers so either longer relocation or longer "invisible window". Some middle ground somewhere? /Shrug

[HeyMcFly]

I think SE should make instanced housing & get rid of current housing wards. Give players enough time to transfer over to an instanced plot & SE can slowly delete the current housing wards.
Why? Because most of the time, the neighborhoods look like cluttered messes, people hate the housing system, people hate the decor limit & I've seen many people chalk up the frustrating "limitations" to late console users- These suggestions hopefully help with that.

Make housing instanced, Get rid of housing wards. At best, copy Wildstar. That game had the best housing experience in any MMO- you could see the "islands/ plots" of your friends floating in the sky & visit them easily. Allow players the housing experience they want.

Lavender Beds instance
Instance is a default forest theme in Gridania or Gridania town- it has a clearing where the house sits, surrounded by dense trees & mountain scenery.
Forest scenery can be changed.


The Goblet instance - Instance can be Desert/ Oasis or Ul'dah setting
Instance setting can be changed to desert/ oasis

The Mist housing Instance- Island/ Beach with a Dock/ Can be changed to a desert Oasis or Canyons

Ishgard Housing Instance- Ishgard housing district or Snow/ winter scene area with snowy forest surrounding the border. (Anything but the Foundation. The Foundation looks like it doesn't belong or related to anything Ishgard- basically, it's ugly, uninspired & kills any hype of wanting to live in a renaissance/ european dark fantasy.)

For all of the instances:
Time of Day can be altered
500+ items can be added for outside & inside scenery with X, Y ,Z Axis item placements for easier time
House, windows, chimney, etc can be altered
Music can be altered
Rivers & waterfalls can be added
Foliage
Hills
Tombstones (eastern gravestones & western styles ones)
Chocobo NPCs can be added, walking around or in a stable.
NPC's of your choice can be added, walking around or sitting still/ random pose
The only limitation would be the ingame items & players imagination

[Besame]

I think SE should make instanced housing & get rid of current housing wards. Give players enough time to transfer over to an instanced plot & SE can slowly delete the current housing wards.
Why? Because most of the time, the neighborhoods look like cluttered messes, people hate the housing system, people hate the decor limit & I've seen many people chalk up the frustrating "limitations" to late console users- These suggestions hopefully help with that.

Make housing instanced, Get rid of housing wards. At best, copy Wildstar. That game had the best housing experience in any MMO- you could see the "islands/ plots" of your friends floating in the sky & visit them easily. Allow players the housing experience they want.

Lavender Beds instance
Instance is a default forest theme in Gridania or Gridania town- it has a clearing where the house sits, surrounded by dense trees & mountain scenery.
Forest scenery can be changed.


The Goblet instance - Instance can be Desert/ Oasis or Ul'dah setting
Instance setting can be changed to desert/ oasis

The Mist housing Instance- Island/ Beach with a Dock/ Can be changed to a desert Oasis or Canyons

Ishgard Housing Instance- Ishgard housing district or Snow/ winter scene area with snowy forest surrounding the border. (Anything but the Foundation. The Foundation looks like it doesn't belong or related to anything Ishgard- basically, it's ugly, uninspired & kills any hype of wanting to live in a renaissance/ european dark fantasy.)

For all of the instances:
Time of Day can be altered
500+ items can be added for outside & inside scenery with X, Y ,Z Axis item placements for easier time
House, windows, chimney, etc can be altered
Music can be altered
Rivers & waterfalls can be added
Foliage
Hills
Tombstones (eastern gravestones & western styles ones)
Chocobo NPCs can be added, walking around or in a stable.
NPC's of your choice can be added, walking around or sitting still/ random pose
The only limitation would be the ingame items & players imagination

I surely do miss Wild Star housing, mine was epic

[Almagnus1]

Make housing instanced, Get rid of housing wards.

Never gonna happen because of the sunk cost fallacy with wards. Your time would be better spent on advocating that more features are added into the apartments, and explaining why we need them, and figuring out how we can work instanced housing with a lore appropriate setting into FFXIV.

[Dzian]

Eh.... the price itself needs to be something that will keep players that don't want to experiment with housing out, but not enough that the apartment gets overlooked as it's seen as not worth the investment. The concern here, however, is not that of an elitist gatekeeper (although I can definitely see how it may come off as such), but rather I don't want to introduce lag or an apartment shortage into FFXIV because I'm fairly certain there are far more players without a house nor apartment than there are apartments and I'm fairly certain we'd probably hit technical limits with the apartments if they were scaled up to allow for everyone to have a house or appartment.

The biggest issue is how the population is spread. There are literally thousands of vacant apartments and hundreds if not thousands of empty housing plots. The problem is that 99.99999999% of players are all cramming onto the same 2 or 3 servers.

Apparently they're doing a data centre visit feature soon so what you have there is an opportunity to transfer to a low pop server / data centre get your house. And still be able to visit or hop onto balmung or whatever and play with your friends..

There are a ton of unused plots and apartments though. Even on my server sargatanas I think my apartment complex only has 6 tenants. And last time I went checking others I found hell of a lot that were the same.

[Marqin]

The biggest issue is how the population is spread. There are literally thousands of vacant apartments and hundreds if not thousands of empty housing plots. The problem is that 99.99999999% of players are all cramming onto the same 2 or 3 servers.

Nah, it's everywhere for house plots. I'm on a server that everyone calls low pop and newest (Light/Twintania) and we have no free house plots in any location ;_;

[Fellgon]

I wish square could make bigger apartments.

[Fellgon]

Never gonna happen because of the sunk cost fallacy with wards. Your time would be better spent on advocating that more features are added into the apartments, and explaining why we need them, and figuring out how we can work instanced housing with a lore appropriate setting into FFXIV.

Never say never...one said "oh no other mmo will beat wow ever!"
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