The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

[NessaWyvern]

What I haven't seen people really touch upon yet, is that this would be good for the Final Fantasy Twitch community.

FFXIV twitch streamers don't get very many views usually, so where are these twitch viewers watching Asmon, excited about FFXIV, going to go when his stream ends for the day? They'll check out the other FFXIV Streamers.

I see this as an overall net positive, and good publicity for the game.

[linayar]

The truth is they do represent us as a whole to the causal viewer.

Maybe, but that doesn't have to be the case for those of us in the know (or those of us who understand that any large community can have differing voices within it, including FFXIV, including WoW, etc.).

The problem is that the recent threads about Asmongold is only trolling the community by being divisive instead of simply pointing the blame where it lies.

It seems to me that there is a secondary agenda of targeting people who dare to claim that they find this community to be great/better than others. If anyone finds this community to be no better than others, then that's too bad, but also understandable as different people can find different experiences within a large community. But that's no excuse to try to bring others down as well.

[Awha]

Maybe, but that doesn't have to be the case for those of us in the know (or those of us who understand that any large community can have differing voices within it, including FFXIV, including WoW, etc.).

The problem is that the recent threads about Asmongold is only trolling the community by being divisive instead of simply pointing the blame where it lies.

It seems to me that there is a secondary agenda of targeting people who dare to claim that they find this community to be great/better than others. If anyone finds this community to be no better than others, then that's too bad, but also understandable as different people can find different experiences within a large community. But that's no excuse to try to bring others down as well.

True we in the know can tell the difference though I have always approached this from the perspective of the new player or those not in the know. In truth the existing players perception of the community is kinda moot when it comes to a those that get a perception based around comments found on twitter or streams as an example.

In truth they stance do not worry is not so bad that is just a small set of players often does not work for me when it comes to trying to get friends to play games I enjoy like LoL.

[Takamorisan]

What I haven't seen people really touch upon yet, is that this would be good for the Final Fantasy Twitch community.

FFXIV twitch streamers don't get very many views usually, so where are these twitch viewers watching Asmon, excited about FFXIV, going to go when his stream ends for the day? They'll check out the other FFXIV Streamers.

I see this as an overall net positive, and good publicity for the game.

I follow Sofie and Zepla, after Asmongold Allcraft summed with Fat Black Chocobo campaign their numbers spiked by a lot. I dont have idea about other streamers, but I believe they all benefit from it somehow?

https://twitter.com/CadenHouse/statu...444394497?s=19

Also lots of new players joined to see FFXIV, I know that some are there to be a pain but many are probably trying and enjoying the game.

[Lanadra]

Sorry did not get to finish my post was on moblie. Point I was trying to make is the amount of people that do not want him to play is kinda irrelevant in the grand scheme the sad truth is the small vocal minority is enough to foster and keep the meme of our "gcbtw" going strong. No matter how few they are their presence is amplified by the fact they are doing it to the top FFXIV streamer by a large margin currently. They will be used as the standard to that represents our community to the general public especially if clips get passed around are shared across social media etc . . .

The truth is they do represent us as a whole to the causal viewer.

I mean the point is moot. People who coin the term 'gcbtw', in the case of a lot of them even unironically, will find any other reason they possibly can to do so. Asmongold is just the current flavor with which they go ''SEE? GCBTW, I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!''. And once the novelty of Asmongold playing FFXIV passes they'll either go back to previous things they went 'gcbtw' with or find a new reason.

It's little more than forcing some weird sense of 'this is the true colors of the entire community' onto the actions of individual idiots.

[linayar]

True we in the know can tell the difference though I have always approached this from the perspective of the new player or those not in the know. In truth the existing players perception of the community is kinda moot when it comes to a those that get a perception based around comments found on twitter or streams as an example.

In truth they stance do not worry is not so bad that is just a small set of players often does not work for me when it comes to trying to get friends to play games I enjoy like LoL.

But there are also positive comments found on social media, but those are the ones that people seem to hate while negative comments are suddenly just something the newcomers are supposed to accept without being challenged.

[Awha]

But there are also positive comments found on social media, but those are the ones that people seem to hate while negative comments are suddenly just something the newcomers are supposed to accept without being challenged.

That is the thing negative experiences tend to stick around. I use my LoL example because even LoL in my opinion has far more positive experiences then negative but sadly people will focus on the negative.

It is kind of like parsing in the grand scheme if we really took into account the three possible outcomes negative, neutral, and positive. From a simple numerical stand point the positive and neutral experiences most likely out number the negative but people will focus on the negative.The sad thing is the negative experiences will for the most part outshine the rest.

Just like when I try to get my friends to play LoL the quote things they see on reddit or twitter toxic community and in the grand scheme it is not as rampant as people like to make it seem but the truth is the perception has already been established.

As a community we are in an interesting spot.

[linayar]

That is the thing negative experiences tend to stick around.

It certainly doesn't help when people try to poke fun with GCBTW or similar things.

As a community we are in an interesting spot.

It's an interesting event, for sure, but likely temporary. A spike in Twitch presence or one world's increased activity due to Asmongold isn't going to change the community that much in the long run. If he ends up liking the game enough to continue with it as a secondary game to WoW, then great. If not, that's alright too. Things will settle down eventually and the community will be fine either way.

[Awha]

It certainly doesn't help when people try to poke fun with GCBTW or similar things.

It's an interesting event, for sure, but likely temporary. A spike in Twitch presence or one world's increased activity due to Asmongold isn't going to change the community that much in the long run. If he ends up liking the game enough to continue with it as a secondary game to WoW, then great. If not, that's alright too. Things will settle down eventually and the community will be fine either way.

The community at the core will be fine either way do not think anyone has said otherwise but I do think the perception of the community will be skewed going forward depending on the spin his experience with the game takes and how many others follow suit. Will be interesting to see if other OTK members or other streamers join him depending on his experience.

[linayar]

I do think the perception of the community will be skewed going forward depending on the spin his experience with the game takes and how many others follow suit.

I don't think so. Asmongold is a bit special in his own way (whether for good or bad) that people cannot use his experience as any kind of tool to predict their own. That's not even taking into account that everyone's experience will be different, but people like him especially.

The perception of the community also wouldn't change all that much as there has always been people who like the community and those who don't, and both sides have been represented in public based on people's differing experiences. Sure his experience might be more known as people report on it, but then again, he also carries his own baggage (whether true or false, whether by his own fault or not).