Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[LisSquid]

I still think it's funny that the fem elezen is picking the popularity hill to die on.

The obvious answer is
BIG
FLUFFY
LION
LADIES

The MOST fuffy!

[Caurcas]

I still think it's funny that the fem elezen is picking the popularity hill to die on.

Well, one we (Fem Elezen) are played at twice the rate as Fem Roe. Two, we weren't a drain resources cause we've been here since 1.0.

[reivaxe]

If you cannot identify the irony of claiming someone is throwing from the high ground and the bulk of your other posts, then I cannot help you.

You have failed to even attempt to identify a "high ground" I'm "throwing from".
If you think me typing "walls of text" is somehow a high ground argument, I think it best if we end our interactions.

I mean, there's no concrete evidence but from all we know and have seen so far, it would suggest that to be the case: the males use the Roe skeleton, the known dislike, or at least debatable status of Au Ra severe dimorphism, the overabundance of the same body type for all non-Lala females, and even the mural you so much refer to has a body comparable to a femroe - heck, Gunnhildr herself was a femroe. All that points out that it's much more likely they'd use the femroe bodytype [not necessarily the body itself] as a base.

Lets run through this.
The males likely use the Roebro rig because the devs wanted them to be big and have that stupid WoW hunch. They actively went out of their way to make them much smaller, thinner and have a more attractive male shape. This lets Roebro's keep their title as the tallest, biggest and beefiest males. Femroe? They never had a unique rig and are based on Middie females. All females who are not Lala are built from that base. Naturally an attempt at making a smaller, thinner, more attractive feminine shape to contrast Femroe is going to ... look like that mural, look like the Queen who looks like the mural and looks like Viera/ highlander, cause over all FemRoe just look like tall n big humans.

"the known dislike, or at least debatable status of Au Ra severe dimorphism" People poo pooing that amount to a drop in the bucket, the race ranks as 1 of the most popular and well-received for both genders in this game. Besides, their height is the example most point to and the mural doesn't suggest they would be smoll, just smaller than FemRoe (the males are also shorter than Femroe). Au Ra show us that the devs can see the point of a race as something other than a body type and are more than willing to get with that.

And if you think the mural and Queen look like what Female Hrothgar will look, then we are in agreement. But the mural goes out of it's way to show the differences in shape between them and Femroe, and the queen reflects that.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Do you know what the phrase "High ground" means?
Saying "Im too busy just playing the game instead of staring at body shapes" is an attempt to take some fictional moral high ground by insinuating that someone else has to be largely just "staring at body shapes" to notice what a Femroe does and doesn't look like.

Im taking the High Ground for admitting I didnt notice because I was to busy playing the game?
What planet are we living on right now?....

Apparently wanting something like this [what femroes should've been]

Is the same as asking for this

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For real...
There are several clear instances and designs for a Muscular woman, that isn't "Built like a Refrigerator" or all this other nonsense being thrown in.

Male Hrothgar work because they are a fixed male Roe that appeals to a furry demographic. Keyword there is "fixed", not clone with fur and animal head.

So why can't the same thing happen to Females?
You just proved it Works with the Males because they "Fixed" the body. Obviously if they did the same thing for the opposite Gender, then it would work.

Because, as mentioned in this thread before, ultra masculine men have a wider appeal than ultra masculine women, furry or no.

Muscle doesn't = Masculine
And you must be blind or High, the Furry Fandom LOVES muscular Female Characters.

[reivaxe]

So why can't the same thing happen to Females?

Because, the reason FemRoe are not played is that they're masculine looking women.

As pointed out a number of times, RoeBros weren't played because they look like barrels with limbs. So they made Hrothgar look like attractive male forms.

And nah, I don't think masculine women are nearly as popular as male Bara-furries.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Because, the reason FemRoe are not played is that they're masculine looking women.

As pointed out a number of times, RoeBros weren't played because they look like barrels with limbs. So they made Hrothgar look like attractive male forms.

And nah, I don't think masculine women are nearly as popular as male Bara-furries.

Then ""Fix The Body"" like Caurcas claimed happened to the males.
Popularity among males is not an excuse to exclude and ignore the Females
I pray SE and the Devs arn't this close minded and afraid.

[RyuDragnier]

Because, the reason FemRoe are not played is that they're masculine looking women.

Correction, the reason a lot of the "guys who play girls" group doesn't play FemRoe is because they're masculine looking women. Guys who tend to play females are often terrified of muscular women, unable to handle their glory.

[Caurcas]

Correction, the reason a lot of the "guys who play girls" group doesn't play FemRoe is because they're masculine looking women. Guys who tend to play females are often terrified of muscular women, unable to handle their glory.

Projection much, my dude?

[Allegor]

I'd play femroe if it wasn't that I see they have the same issues as Elezen - their postures are just weird and rigid, somehow even more so than their male counterparts who are literal blocks.

Does anyone have an idea of what the JP players are hoping the femhroth look like? I’m not sure if bestial races are as popular with the JP players, but what they want might have a pretty big impact on what femhroth end up being.

I doubt they're very popular too, but for what it's worth, most of the recent art we've seeing was done mostly by korean and japanese artists sooo....

[reivaxe]

Then ""Fix The Body"" like Caurcas claimed happened to the males.
Popularity among males is not an excuse to exclude and ignore the Females
I pray SE and the Devs arn't this close minded and afraid.

"Fix the body" = "Give them a more appealing body shape".
Making Hyper Masculine males is no reason to make Hyper Masculine females.