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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I've walked you all through the technicals of why that's the case,
    What technicals? The "using essence only saves 1 minute" number that you pulled out of your hat? How did you verify and prove this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    my using an essence doesn't affect what the other 23 people do, it only affects my output.
    Essence? Yes, it only affects your output.

    But Lost Actions can affect the output of the rest of the raid, immensely, particularly Lost Rend Armor. 2 people out of 24 can keep it constantly up if they alternate uses, the equivalent of constant Trick Attack upkeep, which is huge. I was just in a pug DR where I was the only one using Rend Armor and the Queen died in less than 5 minutes, with party having suboptimal essences like Beast and Bloodsucker.

    And there are no excuses why people don't carry it now with the nerf to fragments cost. Literally 10 minutes of killing magitek in a party for 10~ clusters can net you 4-6 Lost Rend Armor, and the other times you are getting Pure Essence of the Duelist which is better than Skirmisher, and can be combined with Honored Sacrifice for more DPS with no penalty.

    There is no "grind" excuse anymore to be a freeloader.
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    Fland's Avatar
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Essence? Yes, it only affects your output.
    Some essences can be combined with specific lost action that can affect your party. Like Elder and Cure IV for the AOE Bravery.
    So not all essences affect only the user's output.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    My entire point has been that farming essences for DF is a waste of time, and I'm 100% correct.
    No you're not.
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    Last edited by Fland; 06-26-2021 at 05:08 AM.