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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

    Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.
    They didn't randomly change it, the end of the event wasn't tied to a new patch like it normally does, therefore it will expire. They do this all the time with events in-game, you have until XX date to finish the quest/spend tokens/etc.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

    Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.
    No one is really arguing against having a grace period like previous Mogtome events. However, it has been explained way more than once in this thread as to why it was different this time around. It was a special, limited time event tied exclusively to Fanfest, with more items than usual available and double tomestone gains. And because they could, they also made the tomestones time sensitive. There's not much more to say. Just because you and others don't want to see it, doesn't mean the explanation isn't there.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 06-18-2021 at 03:08 AM.
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

    Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.
    Just because I have nothing to lose does not mean I am obligated to offer support. Nor am I obligated to 'go away' just because I disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    No one is really arguing against having a grace period like previous Mogtome events. However, it has been explained way more than once in this thread as to why it was different this time around. It was a special, limited time event tied exclusively to Fanfest, with more items than usual available and double tomestone gains. And because they could, they also made the tomestones time sensitive. There's not much more to say. Just because you and others don't want to see it, doesn't mean the explanation isn't there.
    Just another case of them (as in: all of the people incessantly repeating their complaints) not reading. Most of us have explained at least two or three times in this thread why it didn't work as it normally would. Because it wasn't a normal Moogle Tomestone event.
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  4. #164
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    We don't need your support, but we certainly also don't need your opposition.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    We don't need your support, but we certainly also don't need your opposition.
    Too bad. Even people who disagree have just as much of a right to partake in a discussion, there's no echo chambers here.

    Also, for the record, I don't necessarily oppose a grace period on it's own.. I mean I think it's good the Moogle Tomestone events normally have them. In this case however ample warning was given in all the reasonable ways SE would expect players to keep informed. At some point it ceases to be a case of 'SE is at fault'. And they also made it ample clear this wasn't a normal Tomestone event and thus didn't work like a normal one.
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  6. #166
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    Again, there is literally 0 reason for you - as another player - to oppose people being allowed to spend their hard-earned tomestones. It affects you in no way whatsoever. You are not adding anything to the conversation and are simply being demeaning and condescending ("oh, I guess you can't read, derp derp derp"). As I've said a couple of times now, yes, I missed the disclaimer - I leave my FFXIV on in the background at all times and so I basically only log out / in a couple of times a month (usually during patches); I guess I missed the message when it first went out. I am not saying it is SE's "fault" as you claim, but rather pointing out that it was an easy mistake for people to make given that SE has allowed tomestones to be used after an event for every tomestone event in recent history and SE is known for generally doing things consistently.

    I'm simply saying it would be nice if, since it wouldn't really harm anyone and would only benefit those of us who missed the message, SE would provide a post-event window to spend the tomes. It's not up to me or you - it's up to SE. I have an issue with OP's demanding way of going about asking for it, but nobody in here can reasonably oppose other players asking to be able to spend the tomestones that they already earned. (They can do it, obviously, but it's a silly position to take and just shows how sad their world must be if they derive pleasure out of trying to prevent others from having nice things, especially when those players earned it and just missed the memo about when they needed to spend it by.)
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    I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

    I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

    At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

    I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

    At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.
    That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.
    The only thing I didn't already have from this event was the Scree ring, which I bought on like the first day... So I was basically in the same position as Adeacia except I didn't happen to spend my tomes before the end date. Again, I'm not too torn about it since I already have millions of MGP and everything I could want, but that doesn't change the fact that it was just like "wait wut" at the end. I'm just more baffled by you and the folks in here who are pushing back against a grace period while claiming that you're not lol.
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  10. #170
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    The amount of people refusing to take personal responsibility for their own not reading is astounding...

    I missed out too. I thought the event ended on a Tuesday instead of a Monday because what even is time lol. My bad. Threw out my tomes and moved on.

    SE gave plenty and ample avenues of information for you to realize, outside of the already obvious indications, that this was an irregular Irregular Tomestones event. The assumption that it was like the previous events is on you. It literally would have been as easy as, "huh, I wonder if this is the same as the last time." *reads the login message in chat log* *clicks the link*

    Even if it WAS the same as last time, you would have spent like 2 minutes confirming that yep, same as last time. Since it wasn't, you would have spent 2 minutes and realized "oh, wow, it's different this time. Better spend my tomes."

    It's not brown-nosing SE for saying it's not their fault because it literally isn't their fault. They provided the information; you chose not to read it. That's on you. If you took an argument like this to court the judge would laugh you out of house and home.
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