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    I feel sorry for the people who assumed the event was like previous Moogle events, but at the same time... literally every other in-game event ends when the event ends. No seasonal event lets you turn in tokens after it ends so it was always a bit strange that the Moogle events allowed this.

    So that being said, why are people treating these events differently? If you hand in your tokens for other events before it ends, why not the same here? And if you have so many tokens, why are you not buying as you go along? There's no rule saying that you have to do that, I'm just trying to understand what the thinking is.

    Or do you literally already have everything you want and you were just trying to save them until the last moment to gauge marketboard prices to work out what to get so you can sell for the most profit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Or do you literally already have everything you want and you were just trying to save them until the last moment to gauge marketboard prices to work out what to get so you can sell for the most profit?
    I'm actually one of the poor saps that just likes to pile them up before figuring out what to spend them on. I generally don't hold them much after the end of an event because I want to make sure I don't lose them, but I like knowing I can't accidentally get more that would change my decisions.
    I generally do that for all the moogle events, I earn my tomes, the event 'ends', I spend them all.

    So I actually missed out on the Serpent Ring this time, because I had all my tomes ready to go and logged off ready to figure it out the next day. (There were no warning shouts on my server at that time btw)

    I actually wouldn't mind if Sqenix only made the non-marketable items available for a store re-open, I don't want gil as much as I want things that are hard to grind for traditionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Or do you literally already have everything you want and you were just trying to save them until the last moment to gauge marketboard prices to work out what to get so you can sell for the most profit?



    I just mistimed the ending was going to convert it into MGP tokens. Is it the end of the world, no. But it doesn't hurt for people to ask. If the forums were moderated they would combine the threads and delete the negative/combative comments so it would be easier for SE to gauge how many people like myself can't read it ended Monday morning and not at the weekly reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    literally every other in-game event ends when the event ends.
    not the moogle events though... the treasure trove has always let players use their tomestones after the event period is over... for like months. lol go ahead, go log in and look right now. the tome shop that was there before the Fanfest one is still up. and there are expensive/rare items from that trove which could be put on the market board too... no one is making any sense. least of all the devs.

    the devs put Rainmaker hair, the FFXV crossover, Yokai-watch, and several other things back in the game after removing them (with no plans to put them back in, might i add). i really don't see why they can't open the Fanfest moogle shop back up until the next patch.... it's only like a month away if even... and WTF, if you're doing something for fans/players, why jerk it away from them like that or give such a strict deadline to spend in the first place? if that's how they felt, they should have made this event only have spendable tomes during the hours of Fanfest to begin with.

    the whole point of a digital fanfest was so that NO ONE would miss it, this kinda defeats that point!
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    Last edited by Katsushiro; 06-17-2021 at 09:42 PM.

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    Right. The same place they always tell people the tomes are only available to obtain during the event. That box is not new, just the addition that "item exchange" would also not be available. It would be nice if they explained why they changed things up, but it's their discretion to do that any time. They made sure the information was out there about the change.
    And again, just because you can do something does not mean you should, that it will be liked or appreciated, etc.

    But that's something the brown nosers can't recognize because they're too busy brown nosing.
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    Honestly, the rewards were so underwhelming for me that I kinda forgot to cash in on my tomes. Got like 113 of the suckers without really thinking about the event at all. Whoops.
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    I think my biggest issue with SE randomly deciding to change their methodology for how tomestones can be spent for this event is that it doesn't really seem to serve any purpose and is extremely punishing for those who have been left with lots of tomestones (I personally have over 500 left lul). This event was a limited-time event where you could earn tomestones towards various rewards only during a set period. In that regard, it was like past tomestone events, the Feast ranked seasons, or Ishgard ranked seasons - you had to do the content during these events in order to reap the rewards. However, it was randomly changed up for some reason so that, unlike any past event (other than the seasonal events where you get special tokens), not only did you have to earn the points (tomestones) during this event, but you also had to spend them during this event. Folks on here aren't asking SE to extend the period during which players can earn tomestones; instead, they are asking SE to allow them to reap the rewards of the time they spent over the past month actually doing the content and farming the tomestones.

    Putting such a short expiration date on this event's tomestones is akin to SE putting expiration dates on item codes, which they have effectively stopped doing with recent products (other than pre-orders) because it is arbitrary and punished people who "did the content" (i.e., purchased first-run albums, figurines, art books, etc.) for no real reason.

    At the end of the day I doubt that SE will do anything, but it is frustrating that they would randomly change things up like this. Players come to rely on mechanics in this game, both battle content and otherwise, and this event was no different for many players who have done countless tomestone events in the past. It would be like if all of a sudden the stack marker in a new dungeon randomly meant something completely different, and you mess it up and cause a wipe because you didn't read the patch notes. :-/
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    Last edited by DoH; 06-18-2021 at 01:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    It would be like if all of a sudden the stack marker in a new dungeon randomly meant something completely different, and you mess it up and cause a wipe because you didn't read the patch notes. :-/
    You mean like how there's some fights in the game already where stack markers look different, or how tank busters look like normal aoe's?

    Oh, and just to note, the game also told you literally every time you logged in to hand them in before event ended, on top of event post stating it, on top of all media resources posting it, on top of FAN FEST POSTING IT

    Edit: I wanna add, first and only moogle treasure trove that didn't end with new patch. That should'a already given away this wasn't normal, no? Since 5.55 happened in the middle of this.
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    Last edited by Jijifli; 06-18-2021 at 02:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    I think my biggest issue with SE randomly deciding to change their methodology for how tomestones can be spent for this event is that it doesn't really seem to serve any purpose and is extremely punishing for those who have been left with lots of tomestones (I personally have over 500 left lul). This event was a limited-time event where you could earn tomestones towards various rewards only during a set period. In that regard, it was like past tomestone events, the Feast ranked seasons, or Ishgard ranked seasons - you had to do the content during these events in order to reap the rewards. However, it was randomly changed up for some reason so that, unlike any past event (other than the seasonal events where you get special tokens), not only did you have to earn the points (tomestones) during this event, but you also had to spend them during this event. Folks on here aren't asking SE to extend the period during which players can earn tomestones; instead, they are asking SE to allow them to reap the rewards of the time they spent over the past month actually doing the content and farming the tomestones.

    Putting such a short expiration date on this event's tomestones is akin to SE putting expiration dates on item codes, which they have effectively stopped doing with recent products (other than pre-orders) because it is arbitrary and punished people who "did the content" (i.e., purchased first-run albums, figurines, art books, etc.) for no real reason.

    At the end of the day I doubt that SE will do anything, but it is frustrating that they would randomly change things up like this. Players come to rely on mechanics in this game, both battle content and otherwise, and this event was no different for many players who have done countless tomestone events in the past. It would be like if all of a sudden the stack marker in a new dungeon randomly meant something completely different, and you mess it up and cause a wipe because you didn't read the patch notes. :-/
    Like.. I said it before and I'll say it again.. maybe all of you should have used that noggin of yours and think 'wait.. we just had one of these a month ago.. we're already getting another one?' when that is quite outside the norm in and of itself already.
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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Honestly I'm just projecting a bit in my post since I was one of those people who got a bit overwhelmed with life recently and wasn't able to make the cut-off. Ignorance is not really a good defense for such a thing, but it does feel like it went against prior years where they kept things up. In my own case I really only knew the event was going through the 14th and wasn't aware of the tomestones going away. I just look at the advertisements for events running and when the end date is, then go off the historic precedent. If it was like this on every tomestone event I really wouldn't have anything to say other than it's my own fault.
    And I find myself saying yet again.. this is really getting tiresome now:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    Like.. I said it before and I'll say it again.. maybe all of you should have used that noggin of yours and think 'wait.. we just had one of these a month ago.. we're already getting another one?' when that is quite outside the norm in and of itself already.
    This was not a 'normal' tomestone event 'like every other', SE said this over and over again. It was a special done specifically for Fanfest with different rules. This is an issue of people not informing themselves properly, nothing else.
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