Reopen the Moogle Pageantry Store now!!

[Isabun]

yeah, except if you go look now, the prizes for past tomes like this are literally just magicked prism of job mastery... lol

i have 126 moogles tomes of fanfare, and i am going to have to wait months to spend them on... lolfireworks.

You can still buy stuff with Esoterics right now. Just...most people no longer have those after this long, and another moogle event that for the precedent would have replaced the previous exchange.



Also, for the people complaining that this was back to back: 5.5 and the end of Esoterics was April 12th, the start of Pagaentry was May 14th.
People would have had over two months of time to spend tomes after they were locked off from earning them, and most of the people in the thread aren't even asking for that long.

Having the warning for the timer being a blurb that is easy to miss on the event page did not help either, since they decided to give more attention to where the vendors are than the fact that the exchange will be limited. It is super easy to scroll past that assuming you were familiar with how previous events worked and just scrolled to the actual item list. While it is our responsibility to read everything, there's a lot of reasons why it's easy to make the mistakes people did. The start and end date at the top of the page are the same as any of the other Moogle Tome events, even though they could have easily added that the exchange was limited time there as well.


The in-game text also did not make notice of that addition either, and while we could have been on the forums, watching the official Final Fantasy twitter page, or re-reading the full event page repeatedly, those are not reasonable expectations for an event so similar to previous ones. They could have added a timer for exchange to the vendor window like a lot of gacha games do even just to give a transparent in-game timer. They already do timers for some vendors (including Custom Deliveries) that are visible and would have helped remove confusion.

Even after that, this thread is less about saying it's all on Sqenix, and more just people asking for mercy on an event that had them grind for a month.
So if anyone at Sqenix is reading this, please, give us a grace turn-in time.
If you want to limit or remove some marketable items that's fine, just please let people spend their tomes on the un-tradeables at least.

[Vyrerus]

Just to offer some perspective from the Japanese point of view, regarding things like a grace period.

I personally don’t care either way about a grace period, but SE chose not to… why?

In Japan there are often set boundaries when it comes to things like bending rules and it is often frowned upon to make exceptions because if you make an exception this time, people will expect an exception next time.

It’s viewed very much as a “if you give a mouse a cookie…” situation (google it, it’s a kids book).

To the point, they haven’t had grace periods for events like Xmas or Halloween, so for this to be an exception would give players reason to complain when (for example) the FF15 event returns and doesn’t offer a grace period. This is much more difficult to explain to the player base than “sorry, our events end when they end”.



Personally? I think they should just have a holiday vendor that has exchange for every old/expired “currency” into something like Grand Company Seals or Tomestones.

I prefer, "If You Give a Moose a Muffin."

[Lanadra]

Honestly I'm just projecting a bit in my post since I was one of those people who got a bit overwhelmed with life recently and wasn't able to make the cut-off. Ignorance is not really a good defense for such a thing, but it does feel like it went against prior years where they kept things up. In my own case I really only knew the event was going through the 14th and wasn't aware of the tomestones going away. I just look at the advertisements for events running and when the end date is, then go off the historic precedent. If it was like this on every tomestone event I really wouldn't have anything to say other than it's my own fault.

And I find myself saying yet again.. this is really getting tiresome now:

Like.. I said it before and I'll say it again.. maybe all of you should have used that noggin of yours and think 'wait.. we just had one of these a month ago.. we're already getting another one?' when that is quite outside the norm in and of itself already.

This was not a 'normal' tomestone event 'like every other', SE said this over and over again. It was a special done specifically for Fanfest with different rules. This is an issue of people not informing themselves properly, nothing else.

[DoH]

And I find myself saying yet again.. this is really getting tiresome now:


This was not a 'normal' tomestone event 'like every other', SE said this over and over again. It was a special done specifically for Fanfest with different rules. This is an issue of people not informing themselves properly, nothing else.

You are quite a good troll, I’ll give that to you. For the people like you who keep repeating “the event was tied to FanFest,” this is only partly true. The start time was obviously tied to FanFest, but the end time was by no means tied to FanFest - the event went on for weeks after FanFest ended. As I’ve mentioned previously, if this event started and ended with FanFest and/or used some seasonal item and had a seasonal vendor other than irregular tomestones and the itinerant moogle, people would have assumed that the window to spend had a hard stop. However, SE instead decided to use a well-established currency (irregular tomestones) and vendor (the itinerant moogle) but slipped in a disclaimer that they would function differently this time around. I think that most people - myself included - had seen the message about irregular tomestones so many times that we reasonably assumed that they would work the same as they always do and so we just checked the rewards list and start/end dates of the event (assuming that that was just the earn window, not the earn AND spend window). The events that most folks were carefully paying attention to the timing details of were the Uznair Challenge and the various cosplay/screenshot/art submission windows since these are much less common events that were more tied to FanFest.

[Drakonic]

Did not expect this thread to be so successful, but then again people managed to argue about November for 25 pages.

Also hilarious that people are accusing each other of being trolls... please entertain us more!

[Terin]

I honestly agree, I think they should just allow us to spend the tokens just like every other Moogle event.

It's not the end of the world, sure, but there's also just no compelling reason NOT to allow it. No more EARNING new tokens, just let players spend the ones they have.

Heck, I wish they'd do the same for the Yo-Kai legendary medals. I'd collected ALMOST all of the medals, but somehow I just forgot to actually go back and SPEND them (my thinking had originally been "I'll hold onto them, so I remember which ones I've already completed, and I'll buy the weapons all at once). The event ended before I completed all of them, which is fine, but it sucks having all these complete stacks of legendary medals that I cannot use.

[Lanadra]

You are quite a good troll

'Oh noes, someone disagrees with me and they won't go away, THEY HAVE TO BE A TROLL!!11'

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your drivel if you can't even speak to someone in good faith.

Heck, I wish they'd do the same for the Yo-Kai legendary medals. I'd collected ALMOST all of the medals, but somehow I just forgot to actually go back and SPEND them (my thinking had originally been "I'll hold onto them, so I remember which ones I've already completed, and I'll buy the weapons all at once). The event ended before I completed all of them, which is fine, but it sucks having all these complete stacks of legendary medals that I cannot use.

While to some degree I can get why you feel that way, I do believe most MMO's don't do such things by design. Events are supposed to be limited time and in nine out of ten cases.. when the event ends, it ends. Making sure you get what you need from the event is kind of something you're supposed to do during the event. Off course normal Moogle Tomestones event did set a different precedence. That was probably why SE went to such lengths to try and make clear that this Tomestone event did not play by the same rules.

It is not on SE when they make every possible effort to give players the means to get the necessary info.. that some players choose not to do so. This is also why I think they won't be changing their mind on this.

[DoH]

'Oh noes, someone disagrees with me and they won't go away, THEY HAVE TO BE A TROLL!!11'

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your drivel if you can't even speak to someone in good faith.

lol says the person telling people to “use their noggin and think” (i.e., calling people dumb). Okay, troll.

[Lanadra]

lol says the person telling people to “use their noggin and think” (i.e., calling people dumb). Okay, troll.

sigh Do I really have to make clear that telling someone to use their brain and think does not equate to 'calling people dumb'? Do I really? Well, apparently I do it would seem.

[DoH]

sigh Do I really have to make clear that telling someone to use their brain and think does not equate to 'calling people dumb'? Do I really? Well, apparently I do it would seem.

Ah, yes, my bad, I often tell people to “use your noggin and think” when I’m complimenting their intellect. It was my bad for thinking that you were insinuating that if someone didn’t make the same assumptions about another irregular tomestone event as you then they weren’t using their noggin.