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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    sigh Do I really have to make clear that telling someone to use their brain and think does not equate to 'calling people dumb'? Do I really? Well, apparently I do it would seem.
    Ah, yes, my bad, I often tell people to “use your noggin and think” when I’m complimenting their intellect. It was my bad for thinking that you were insinuating that if someone didn’t make the same assumptions about another irregular tomestone event as you then they weren’t using their noggin.
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    Last edited by DoH; 06-19-2021 at 04:32 AM.

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    To any argument that the event by its nature being limited time is reason to remove the tomestone rewards: Is it not already a limited event if the method to acquire the items to use to purchase things is no longer available? Giving people a grace period after an event is done to turn in tomestones is something that they already set a precedent for so this is quite strange.

    I'm just hoping they don't do this again. Part of what makes FFXIV enjoyable is not feeling rushed into having to do something just to get a reward, and the last few times they did this they stuck to that. This just isn't in the spirit of the game.
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    Last edited by Colt47; 06-19-2021 at 07:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    To any argument that the event by its nature being limited time is reason to remove the tomestone rewards: Is it not already a limited event if the method to acquire the items to use to purchase things is no longer available? Giving people a grace period after an event is done to turn in tomestones is something that they already set a precedent for so this is quite strange.

    I'm just hoping they don't do this again. Part of what makes FFXIV enjoyable is not feeling rushed into having to do something just to get a reward, and the last few times they did this they stuck to that. This just isn't in the spirit of the game.
    Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

    This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

    This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.
    It was a moogle event linked to the fanfest.

    Regardless they should put in something to let people cash out of old tomestones just like any other currency even if it isn't for the original prizes, be it MGP, glamour prisms, or something simple. I'm not just saying this about the current event but just about all the moogle events. It's just easier to manage having some cash out guy at the gold saucer that you can turn in old event items to than to keep a lot of extra vendors around that no one can use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

    This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.
    This argument ignores that they could have used any other vendor than the Moogle vendor with Irregular tomestones and people would have known to not expect the precedent.
    They chose to use the Moogle Treasure tag, the vendor, the same acquisition methods (even if tomes were doubled), so it's not a far stretch for most people familiar with Moogle Tomes to expect the late exchange they were used to for previous events.

    They could have whipped up a quick Fanfest only vendor and given us Fanfest coins and people wouldn't have expected that.

    This is besides the point that asking for a grace period isn't really worth everyone coming in to argue that we don't deserve it for "not reading" when there were any number of things that could have been done to reduce confusion.
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    1) You were told it was time-limited during the Fanfest broadcast
    2) It was on the Login page, available daily
    3) It was on the Lodestone webpage, available daily
    4) It was told to you in the login window after entering your world, daily
    5) You were told in this forum in another post on the last day
    6) You completely ignored all of this, on your own behalf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabun View Post
    This argument ignores that they could have used any other vendor than the Moogle vendor with Irregular tomestones and people would have known to not expect the precedent.
    They chose to use the Moogle Treasure tag, the vendor, the same acquisition methods (even if tomes were doubled), so it's not a far stretch for most people familiar with Moogle Tomes to expect the late exchange they were used to for previous events.

    They could have whipped up a quick Fanfest only vendor and given us Fanfest coins and people wouldn't have expected that.

    This is besides the point that asking for a grace period isn't really worth everyone coming in to argue that we don't deserve it for "not reading" when there were any number of things that could have been done to reduce confusion.
    What confusion? That info was there for everyone to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    1) You were told it was time-limited during the Fanfest broadcast
    2) It was on the Login page, available daily
    3) It was on the Lodestone webpage, available daily
    4) It was told to you in the login window after entering your world, daily
    5) You were told in this forum in another post on the last day
    6) You completely ignored all of this, on your own behalf
    1) This is not in-game, and that is assuming that players are watching the full broadcast in order to see that mention. (I did not)
    2) The login page did not include that the exchange period was limited time. It showed the start/end, but not that the exchange was different from any other Moogle Tome event.
    3) In my earlier post in this thread I showed how easy it is to miss that bubble on the Lodestone page, but it is only in one spot halfway down, completely out of sight if you are looking at any of the items available to exchange. I'm not saying it isn't there, but it is very easy to miss.
    4) The exchange being limited time was not mentioned in the in-game login message, the normal event start/end was.
    5) If you check my post count it is very obvious I am not active on the forums. For the same reason I missed the Twitter message from the official account.
    6) I actually did open the lodestone page near the start of the event, scrolled to the item list (missing the notice about the merchant time), and did not spend an hour re-reading as it was a Moogle Tome event and I was used to how those functioned.

    This is the only one I can very much admit is my fault, but it's not like it was a very hard mistake to make.
    Fault lies with me, sure, but it's not a reason for me (or anyone else here) to not ask for forgiveness from Sqenix.

    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    What confusion? That info was there for everyone to read.
    Same as above.
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    Why are you guys still arguing over this? If you want to show Square that you don't like their decisions, stop paying for this game. Everything else will just be ignored by them.
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    People are so dumb sometime.
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