Apartments need Rent

[Imora]

Greenhouse as an outdoor addon could be cool. In EQ2 i had my "attic" laid out with waterfalls and a giant garden. The skylights reminded me of a greenhouse so I went with it.

A balcony could be nice too. My retainer keeps bringing me back furniture too that I can't use. Mansion walls and crap.

I hope Ishgard gets an apartment building. I'd move in an instant.

[Themarvin]

put rent on housing and FC houses, being FC house of course would be more, but easier to pay if more about it.

[Almagnus1]

put rent on housing and FC houses, being FC house of course would be more, but easier to pay if more about it.

As much as people would hate it, having a rent mechanic would definitely help drain money from the economy, which this game needs badly.

[NanaWiloh]

10k a week..excuse me. *Rolls on floor laughing until blue in the face. Really?

[Nepentha]

As much as people would hate it, having a rent mechanic would definitely help drain money from the economy, which this game needs badly.

10k is pocket change. There's millions, no billions, of gil out there being amassed because we don't have any proper gil sinks atm. I'll agree with you that there needs to be something to sink it all into. But charging rent for apartments isn't one of them.

[MicahZerrshia]

I am going to post my reply to another thread here, because I feel it works in this situation too...

Or, hear me out.

We can stop coming up with ways to punish other players and put more pressure on SE to solve the problem they created in a way that is fair to everyone paying the same each month in subscription costs. I know its easy to point fingers and scream "but they don't play as much as I or partake in the same content as I, so therefore I deserve exclusive access to this other piece of content and they do not". But it is not other players that are the problem. It is the way SE is handling housing on a more fundamental basis. I think everyone deserves a house if they want one.

Housing is in and of itself its own piece on content, not a reward for completing content, like weapon or armor drops. Some people I am sure like to log in and decorate their homes and have little interest in other aspects of the game. They are still playing the game, they are still partaking in their favorite piece of content and should be able to reap the benefits of that content without some other dude screaming at them from afar that they are more deserving just because they feel they are. It is not up to us to police other players or try to have them punished for enjoying the content they enjoy. It is up to us to put more pressure on SE to open that content to all who want to partake.

Should we need to farm tokens on a consistent basis to participate in savage, or ultimate? What about the 24 man raids? Hunts? And then only have a set number of instances open and getting into one of those instances was done by a lotto or by having to click on the entrance for hours. Hoping that someone already in the instance ran out of tokens and is going to be forcibly removed. Imagine if this was the case? Ppl would be going nuts, putting pressure on SE to change it. So why is it that with a piece of content like housing, we don't look to SE for change, and instead we try to come up with the most creative ways possible to say they we are more entitled that someone else and therefore should have exclusive access?

Other players are not the problem. You are not more deserving to have access to a piece of content just because you feel you do.

Seriously. Why are ppl dead set on trying to put arbitrary restrictions on housing that punishes other players instead of rewards more.

[Almagnus1]

10k is pocket change. There's millions, no billions, of gil out there being amassed because we don't have any proper gil sinks atm. I'll agree with you that there needs to be something to sink it all into. But charging rent for apartments isn't one of them.

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

[Nepentha]

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

I'm not sure why you've fixated on this, but it's just not feasible and not something SE is likely to do. Apartments are instanced housing meant to placate people who cannot get housing, or access to FC rooms. They're not meant to be demolished and are quite plentiful even on high population servers. Charging rent for housing, that would probably be more reasonable but still, not something SE is likely to do.

[MicahZerrshia]

The only way a gil sink would work is if it's a continual fee on something we want to use. Rent is one of those things that (IMO) should have been part of FFXIV housing from the very beginning, and should have been attached to everything with the exception of FC rooms (as you're paying for the house itself and not the individual rooms).

While 10k/month/apartment isn't big, if houses (and then FC houses) had significantly higher rent rates (like at least an order of magnitude, if not more), it'd help drive up the demand of the apartments while also bleeding the economy of gil.

Correction, it would contribute to the already out of hand rmt. We already have no gil sinks and rmt are out of control. Give us something that we need to pay for every week, that is as highly sought after as housing, which should be available to all who want it, then you are just making two situations worse for the player population.

Do we need gil sinks? I mean, sure I guess. But they should come in other forms. Maybe make crafting items purchasable with gil instead of tomes or scrips. They add lots of new things but put them behind a token currency instead of gil. They even removed gil from the beast tribe quest items and put them behind their own tribal tokens. Remember 200k for a mount? Yeah they had a way to remove gil and they changed it to a token. If they wanted an actual gil sink they could have it quite easily in other venues.

Like I stated earlier, housing in ffxiv is its own piece of content and locking that behind a paywall that is not just a general sub and a base purchase amount is just a bad idea and does nothing to solve the housing crisis in the long run. You are just needlessly punishing players.

[ItMe]

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