Housing Credit System

[MicahZerrshia]

Or, hear me out.

We can stop coming up with ways to punish other players and put more pressure on SE to solve the problem they created in a way that is fair to everyone paying the same each month in subscription costs. I know its easy to point fingers and scream "but they don't play as much as I or partake in the same content as I, so therefore I deserve exclusive access to this other piece of content and they do not". But it is not other players that are the problem. It is the way SE is handling housing on a more fundamental basis. I think everyone deserves a house if they want one.

Housing is in and of itself its own piece on content, not a reward for completing content, like weapon or armor drops. Some people I am sure like to log in and decorate their homes and have little interest in other aspects of the game. They are still playing the game, they are still partaking in their favorite piece of content and should be able to reap the benefits of that content without some other dude screaming at them from afar that they are more deserving just because they feel they are. It is not up to us to police other players or try to have them punished for enjoying the content they enjoy. It is up to us to put more pressure on SE to open that content to all who want to partake.

Should we need to farm tokens on a consistent basis to participate in savage, or ultimate? What about the 24 man raids? Hunts? And then only have a set number of instances open and getting into one of those instances was done by a lotto or by having to click on the entrance for hours. Hoping that someone already in the instance ran out of tokens and is going to be forcibly removed. Imagine if this was the case? Ppl would be going nuts, putting pressure on SE to change it. So why is it that with a piece of content like housing, we don't look to SE for change, and instead we try to come up with the most creative ways possible to say they we are more entitled that someone else and therefore should have exclusive access?

Other players are not the problem. You are not more deserving to have access to a piece of content just because you feel you do.

[Besame]

Or, hear me out.

We can stop coming up with ways to punish other players and put more pressure on SE to solve the problem they created in a way that is fair to everyone paying the same each month in subscription costs. I know its easy to point fingers and scream "but they don't play as much as I or partake in the same content as I, so therefore I deserve exclusive access to this other piece of content and they do not". But it is not other players that are the problem. It is the way SE is handling housing on a more fundamental basis. I think everyone deserves a house if they want one.

Housing is in and of itself its own piece on content, not a reward for completing content, like weapon or armor drops. Some people I am sure like to log in and decorate their homes and have little interest in other aspects of the game. They are still playing the game, they are still partaking in their favorite piece of content and should be able to reap the benefits of that content without some other dude screaming at them from afar that they are more deserving just because they feel they are. It is not up to us to police other players or try to have them punished for enjoying the content they enjoy. It is up to us to put more pressure on SE to open that content to all who want to partake.

Should we need to farm tokens on a consistent basis to participate in savage, or ultimate? What about the 24 man raids? Hunts? And then only have a set number of instances open and getting into one of those instances was done by a lotto or by having to click on the entrance for hours. Hoping that someone already in the instance ran out of tokens and is going to be forcibly removed. Imagine if this was the case? Ppl would be going nuts, putting pressure on SE to change it. So why is it that with a piece of content like housing, we don't look to SE for change, and instead we try to come up with the most creative ways possible to say they we are more entitled that someone else and therefore should have exclusive access?

Other players are not the problem. You are not more deserving to have access to a piece of content just because you feel you do.

Well said, weary of the "entitled" thinking they should get more than any other subscriber by time spent or deeds done No imagined "punishments", this is supposed to be a positive experience lol.

[Almagnus1]

Well said, weary of the "entitled" thinking they should get more than any other subscriber by time spent or deeds done No imagined "punishments", this is supposed to be a positive experience lol.

If housing was truly a positive experience, we wouldn't have horror stores of people failing Signage Ultimate.

[sharlim]

Unless anyone has any other thoughts on this thread I would consider this topic closed as SE has announced a new housing lottery + FC system. Thanks everyone for your feedback and discussion!

Recap link of the live letter which discussing new housing lottery:
https://novacrystallis.com/2021/07/f...mark-detailed/

[sharlim]

Well said, weary of the "entitled" thinking they should get more than any other subscriber by time spent or deeds done No imagined "punishments", this is supposed to be a positive experience lol.

Not sure how the thread started to take this turn, but appreciate the positivity and reinforcement that we are all equal!

[sharlim]

Or, hear me out.

We can stop coming up with ways to punish other players and put more pressure on SE to solve the problem they created in a way that is fair to everyone paying the same each month in subscription costs. I know its easy to point fingers and scream "but they don't play as much as I or partake in the same content as I, so therefore I deserve exclusive access to this other piece of content and they do not". But it is not other players that are the problem. It is the way SE is handling housing on a more fundamental basis. I think everyone deserves a house if they want one.

Housing is in and of itself its own piece on content, not a reward for completing content, like weapon or armor drops. Some people I am sure like to log in and decorate their homes and have little interest in other aspects of the game. They are still playing the game, they are still partaking in their favorite piece of content and should be able to reap the benefits of that content without some other dude screaming at them from afar that they are more deserving just because they feel they are. It is not up to us to police other players or try to have them punished for enjoying the content they enjoy. It is up to us to put more pressure on SE to open that content to all who want to partake.

Should we need to farm tokens on a consistent basis to participate in savage, or ultimate? What about the 24 man raids? Hunts? And then only have a set number of instances open and getting into one of those instances was done by a lotto or by having to click on the entrance for hours. Hoping that someone already in the instance ran out of tokens and is going to be forcibly removed. Imagine if this was the case? Ppl would be going nuts, putting pressure on SE to change it. So why is it that with a piece of content like housing, we don't look to SE for change, and instead we try to come up with the most creative ways possible to say they we are more entitled that someone else and therefore should have exclusive access?

Other players are not the problem. You are not more deserving to have access to a piece of content just because you feel you do.

Agree 100%. Everyone who pays their sub should have the same opportunities, this was actually at the heart of my proposal through a merit based system - but it's alot more complex than a lottery system which can achieve the same result with less complexity to manage.

This thread and the others in the megathread served the purpose of providing visibility to SE, and looks like they are moving forward with the lottery system + fc housing. I hope their decision was in part influenced by these forum discussions. If so, I would say these conversations were a success, thank you for your feedback!