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  1. #11
    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Stat squish does not guarantee unsynced content will be harder. Depending how they tackle it, they could just update the damage-defense/resistance formula to be more relevant.

    You can have level 50, 60, 70, 80 Savage bosses all having the same amount of Hp (for example 99999) and you are only able to deal 100-200 Hp with level appropiate gear, however if you go back and do the same bosses but with higher level gear from the next expansion, you are able to deal 400-600 Hp. This way you reduce the number porn bloat without affecting old content unsyncability
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  2. #12
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakonic View Post
    Ultimates don't drop mounts though
    Mounts the truest form of end game. . !

    Maybe you can only use glamours if you beat all ultimates at least once a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Stat squish does not guarantee unsynced content will be harder. Depending how they tackle it, they could just update the damage-defense/resistance formula to be more relevant.

    You can have level 50, 60, 70, 80 Savage bosses all having the same amount of Hp (for example 99999) and you are only able to deal 100-200 Hp with level appropiate gear, however if you go back and do the same bosses but with higher level gear from the next expansion, you are able to deal 400-600 Hp. This way you reduce the number porn bloat without affecting old content unsyncability
    They said a consequence of their stat squish is unsync might not be as strong (that doesn't mean useless, just not as crazy). There was mention of doing this to help prevent a bug (sounds like some sort of overflow thing), but I also personally imagine it's to help healers as their role basically becomes less and less important and more potentially boring the stronger everyone else gets. Outside of some extra hard content you could feasibly heal in most content oGCD, and I think, big 'think' (no word said on that), among other changes, might be part of what is going to be addressed at least slightly. Just my guess with all the healer stuff going on that healer is part of this whole thing. As also why I think healers started to go this way in the beginning (a number of players asking for healers to focus on healing over DD, and then they did that but for the most part you don't really need to focus on healing and yet your DD role is less interesting).
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  3. #13
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    Aya Lin
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    Louisoix
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Bait thread aside...
    The issue is finding competent players in a PF who care enough to want to learn how to rotate between a,b,c so the explosions go off correctly.

    Not everyone has a lot of time to nolife savage when they work or are busy IRL.
    It's obsolete, so why should it take any more time than it has to?

    If you want to clear content in its original form, develop a static or run it with your fc. Otherwise, dont get mad about pug strats lol
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    Last edited by usernameuwu; 06-15-2021 at 08:51 AM.

  4. #14
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    Imora's Avatar
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If its anything like WoW's stat squishes everything will be broken, not just old savages.

    They didn't fix that for MONTHS.
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  5. #15
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    J'uzo Okita
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    Louisoix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Drakonic View Post
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    I agree that making harder makes it more fun when you start, but for looking for ppl ? Good fucking luck. Doing older raids, even unsynched is a pain the ass because of how long you have to wait in pf. Statics usually don't care about thoose because not a lot of ppl want to do them aniway.
    Ppl are more interested in extreme mounts, current savage and really easy old savage.

    So making it harder will juste make ppl less interested in it.

    So i'm kinda meh, at this point i don't care.

    Weak bait tho you can do better than this.
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  6. #16
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    VelKallor's Avatar
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    Vel Kallor
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    If its anything like WoW's stat squishes everything will be broken, not just old savages.

    They didn't fix that for MONTHS.
    This isnt WOW and the dev team dont do anything by halves..I am positive they are WELL AWARE of the old content and old savages / mount collectors etc.

    Have faith. I do.
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  7. #17
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Im alright with old fights being tad difficult like how they use to be but could care less about old savage and Exs. Its just a ton of normal/hard fights get blasted away far too easy, with so much of these fights have mechanics skipped or unseen. Does the normal sync down doesnt not effect basic weapon damage or something?
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  8. #18
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Im alright with old fights being tad difficult like how they use to be but could care less about old savage and Exs. Its just a ton of normal/hard fights get blasted away far too easy, with so much of these fights have mechanics skipped or unseen. Does the normal sync down doesnt not effect basic weapon damage or something?
    It does, it's just that even the party being 1 item level above the content can be enough to start disrupting the intended flow of the fight. Even when content is released, some the party is usually above the item level it was designed for.

    For example, the latest extreme trial is for Item Level 510, and there are people at Item Level 530 now, so it's already not as hard as intended even at release.

    To sync it fully you would have to set Minimum IL and Silence Echo in the settings. It can't be understated how big of an impact even 5 extra item levels on each party member makes to the difficulty. Old 8-person content syncs you to the maximum item level of the expansion, which is sometimes a 100 item level difference to what it was designed for, depending on where in the expansion it was released.
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  9. #19
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    Sathona Jun
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 90
    i stopped reading at the 'It's pathetic' part.
    its one of those threads again isnt it..

    edit: just realised its the same guy crying about 'ff14 evangelists', moving on..
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    Last edited by Sathona; 06-16-2021 at 03:36 AM.

  10. #20
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    This isnt WOW and the dev team dont do anything by halves..I am positive they are WELL AWARE of the old content and old savages / mount collectors etc.

    Have faith. I do.
    I haven't had faith in a game development studio in probably 20 years now.
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