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  1. #321
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Or a bit of both. Which would be preferable. The more toxic ones that are actually harassing will get banned, where the more blunt ones will stay and scare off the sensitive ones which would be a good trade-off.
    Or they can do their job to the fullest extent and hammer down on people that are outright toxic and those that like to mask their toxicity behind the masquerading of being helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Not sure how else to make it more clear....He's just another gamer, he's not special.
    I dont care about his money or whatever Achievements he apparently has, or any amount of fame/notoriety he has. None of it means anything to me, but you love to tell me about it like it should mean something to me. You for some reason want me to be Jealous of another Gamer....I just dont get it lol.

    He's gonna try the game after all he has said about it...cool, neat. Moving on with life. Like many others Im curious to see if he likes it and how far he will go....all of that said, its still nothing special that he is playing the game. He himself has said "Its just a Videogame" Even Asmon doesn't think its that big a deal, but other people want to make it a big deal.
    Kinda Crazy.


    Btw no..Jeff Bezos isn't special, he's just a business man doing business.
    Never heard of Michio Kaku, but if he is a Scientist, that to me is more special then a Gamer.
    Yup, the jealousy is clear in you. You want trivialize others achievements so that you don't' feel bad about yourself. And of course you didn't hear about Michio Kaku. You're busy drowning in jealousy and self-pity rofl!
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  3. #323
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Or they can do their job to the fullest extent and hammer down on people that are outright toxic and those that like to mask their toxicity behind the masquerading of being helpful.
    Except the latter hardly ever happens lol. Especially in the case of “casual toxicity.”
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  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Except the latter hardly ever happens lol. Especially in the case of “casual toxicity.”
    That wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list, simply an example; one of many things that would encompass passive-aggressiveness or bluntness for that matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    Yup, the jealousy is clear in you. You want trivialize others achievements so that you don't' feel bad about yourself. And of course you didn't hear about Michio Kaku. You're busy drowning in jealousy and self-pity rofl!
    Even if you're a troll, this is cringeworthy to read that you immediately try and chalk abstaining/neutrality or insouciance down to being jealous.
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  5. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    You want trivialize others achievements so that you don't' feel bad about yourself. And of course you didn't hear about Michio Kaku. You're busy drowning in jealousy and self-pity rofl!
    I never even mentioned any achievement he made, or any amount of money he made, or money at all. That was all you.
    You must be bored out of your mind to try so hard and spin me not caring & me saying Asmon is just a Gamer and nothing special, Into me being Jealous.
    And now me not knowing who Michio Kaku is the result of me drowning in Jealousy and Self Pity......this was some High Grade Trolling.
    Had me going for a while. Could have gotten another page or 2 out of me if it wasn't for your last sentence there XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Even if you're a troll, this is cringeworthy to read that you immediately try and chalk abstaining/neutrality or insouciance down to being jealous.
    After that last line, I think I figured out it was a troll finally. Bugger had me going lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Even if you're a troll, this is cringeworthy to read that you immediately try and chalk abstaining/neutrality or insouciance down to being jealous.
    It's not abstaining/neutrality when you seek out a thread about a person to announce you don't care what he's doing because he's insignificant. That's called condescension, and it's vitriol directed at that person and/or his fans; and jealousy is a possible explanation for it.

    Abstaining/neutrality would be simply not getting involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It's not abstaining/neutrality when you seek out a thread about a person to announce you don't care what he's doing because he's insignificant. That's called condescension, and it's vitriol directed at that person and/or his fans; and jealousy is a possible explanation for it.

    Abstaining/neutrality would be simply not getting involved.
    To add onto this. The entire conversation stemmed from what he would bring to the table/why SE acknowledged him. He *is* something special in SE’e eyes and in a lot of people’s eyes. Just because someone doesn’t see it doesn’t make it any less true. He is a special player because of him having such a large audience and income, and being an influencer.
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  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It's not abstaining/neutrality when you seek out a thread about a person to announce you don't care what he's doing because he's insignificant. That's called condescension, and it's vitriol directed at that person and/or his fans; and jealousy is a possible explanation for it.

    Abstaining/neutrality would be simply not getting involved.
    Show me a quote where I called him insignificant, or that I don't care what he's doing because he's insignificant.
    Vitriol would mean Im being harsh or criticizing him for doing this, when I have done neither. I even said that Im curious how far he will get in the game. When were his fans brought into the conversation? I sure as heck didnt mention them.
    My point has been; Asmongold is nothing Special, he is a Gamer. For some reason that simple fact = Jealousy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarboroughFairy View Post
    I...genuinely don't wanna keep this dumpster fire of a thread running, but I'll give my .02 on this whole affair. After watching a bit of Asmongold's stuff and his OG account--he's not the problem. "Asmongold" is a character he plays and a parody of the type of neckbeards that play WoW. It just so happens that a lot of Twitch apes found that character relatable and end up subbing to his content, ironically enough.

    ZackRawrr, who he actually is, is a softspoken, eloquent, and down-to-earth individual. He's actually a cool dude.

    That said, I will say I'm worried about the selfsame Twitch apes that might follow him around ingame on whatever server he settles in and potentially ruin the game for everyone else. They'll eventually either be banned from ever playing again or get bored, throw a tantrum, and then leave. I'll also say I'm pretty disappointed in all the damn gatekeeping I'm seeing in this thread as all this purity checking is making my brain hurt. Unironically GCBTW.
    This is literally what I've been trying to say all along in this thread, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    To add onto this. The entire conversation stemmed from what he would bring to the table/why SE acknowledged him. He *is* something special in SE’e eyes and in a lot of people’s eyes. Just because someone doesn’t see it doesn’t make it any less true. He is a special player because of him having such a large audience and income, and being an influencer.
    The guy normally gets Twitch views in the 60k range and Youtube videos in the 500k range. Square Enix would be nuts to not throw out a quick tweet. What has ALWAYS been amazing is Blizzard has pretended like the guy does not exist.
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