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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    That was the point I was making with the meme in the thread he made about Male Viera needing to be tall, but tall has a very wonky definition to him. Would not take "They'll probably be the same height as f Viera, or can be a little taller" as a correct answer, as that made them "short".
    yep even if viera follow the same dimorphism as other races (except au ra) they wouldn‘t be as tall as male elezen in my book - since female viera are shorter than female elezen. i think they would just be about male highlander - which i guess amnmaat still considers as too small? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    yep even if viera follow the same dimorphism as other races (except au ra) they wouldn‘t be as tall as male elezen in my book - since female viera are shorter than female elezen. i think they would just be about male highlander - which i guess amnmaat still considers as too small? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I actually kind of love how they came out, and even more if they are similar height.

    I had a headcanon that the reason people hadn't seen a male viera was because they only thought they hadn't seen one. The models have a similar build (athletic, lithe, with soft/smooth faces). It would fit my theory so well if they were a similar height as well, but doesn't hinge on it. Here all along, but people just misidentified them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I actually kind of love how they came out, and even more if they are similar height.

    I had a headcanon that the reason people hadn't seen a male viera was because they only thought they hadn't seen one. The models have a similar build (athletic, lithe, with soft/smooth faces). It would fit my theory so well if they were a similar height as well, but doesn't hinge on it. Here all along, but people just misidentified them.
    I don't know what kinds of eyes you have but male and female Viera are visually distinct. I would never, for the life of me mistake a male Viera with a female Viera. As a man I sure as hell wouldn't make that mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I don't know what kinds of eyes you have but male and female Viera are visually distinct. I would never, for the life of me mistake a male Viera with a female Viera. As a man I sure as hell wouldn't make that mistake.

    /10char <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I had a headcanon that the reason people hadn't seen a male viera was because they only thought they hadn't seen one. The models have a similar build (athletic, lithe, with soft/smooth faces). It would fit my theory so well if they were a similar height as well, but doesn't hinge on it. Here all along, but people just misidentified them.
    That's my thought on it as well. Height doesn't really come into it, but they could easily be mistaken for women, at least in passing - and may even want to maintain that misconception for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's my thought on it as well. Height doesn't really come into it, but they could easily be mistaken for women, at least in passing - and may even want to maintain that misconception for some reason.
    Yes, I just thought it would make it more plausible in comparison to some of the other theories. By "similar" I do mean around the same height if not slightly taller or shorter. To be clear, because some people meant like Roe height and monstrous or female au ra height when using tall/short.

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    That want to keep androgynous might be a thing to play around with, too. For a long time (at least in the Ivalice canon) male Viera were said to be savage and feral. Can't imagine you'd get a warm reception if people had that prejudice in the back of their mind.
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    Meanwile me, a lean guy irl reading all of this :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's my thought on it as well. Height doesn't really come into it, but they could easily be mistaken for women, at least in passing - and may even want to maintain that misconception for some reason.
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    Yes, I just thought it would make it more plausible in comparison to some of the other theories. By "similar" I do mean around the same height if not slightly taller or shorter. To be clear, because some people meant like Roe height and monstrous or female au ra height when using tall/short.

    edit:

    That want to keep androgynous might be a thing to play around with, too. For a long time (at least in the Ivalice canon) male Viera were said to be savage and feral. Can't imagine you'd get a warm reception if people had that prejudice in the back of their mind.
    I remember when I said male viera looked somewhat androgynous, a few people jumped down my throat for it. I still think they kind of do look androgynous, at least in passing like Iscah said. I don't know why they would want to let people think they are women though lol If the intention behind the design decision of this race was to make the males a little similar to females, then they will probably be around the same height range as the females.

    I've been doing height comparisons for some time now, and have been looking at other people's height comparisons. Before, I thought that male viera might be the same height or just a few centimeters taller then the females. But now I'm not really sure. Looking at these pictures, it would not be a surprise if they were the exact same height range, or if the males were just slightly shorter than the females by a few centimeters. It's really difficult to say with what we have. It's not that I'm against it, but I doubt we'd get a slider like female roegadyn has for male viera.
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