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    Í can't believe people are holding so tight against the idea of male viera being possibly shorter than females cause otherwise what, their virility suffers? I'm seeing so much gender bullshit that I just hope they make them shorter so they disappoint it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Í can't believe people are holding so tight against the idea of male viera being possibly shorter than females cause otherwise what, their virility suffers? I'm seeing so much gender bullshit that I just hope they make them shorter so they disappoint it all.
    I don't mind people wanting a tall race, but I agree the justifications that keep cropping up for it put a bad taste in my mouth.
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    It's just a matter of preference. Some guys are just turned off by being smaller than girls and somes girls are turned off by being taller than guys. No shame in feeling like that, the wrong move is trying to shame others because they don't like the same things.

    And some guys just want to be tall, being smaller than females doesn't even enter in the problem. Female Viera are not very tall when you compare to all the males so not liking something like same or smaller size than females makes sense. Or i'm crazy idk.

    I admit i'm just more exited for taller males, because i already play miqote aniway. I'd rather have something more different, than something with more common points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    I admit i'm just more exited for taller males, because i already play miqote aniway. I'd rather have something more different, than something with more common points.
    same for me tbh xD they would just be too similar to miqo‘te personally. i‘d have a hard time choosing wether i want a limited race or stick with my miqo boi.
    but quite some comparisons show them as the same height at least (maybe a few cm taller/smaller than f. viera). i‘d love them exactly the same size tbh, and it would make sense lorewise! i just won‘t personally like a too drastic of a difference, way smaller (au ra dimorphism) or way taller.
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 06-14-2021 at 08:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
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    I don't get it either. Having one race with females taller than males isn't a big deal. If we're talking about real life, men tend to be taller than women, yes. But this is a fantasy race in a fantasy game - it shouldn't be a shock if they develop differently than real humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I don't get it either. Having one race with females taller than males isn't a big deal. If we're talking about real life, men tend to be taller than women, yes. But this is a fantasy race in a fantasy game - it shouldn't be a shock if they develop differently than real humans.
    I believe some people may have been in love with the idea of being a special, Dimitrescu momma, monogender race.
    Personally, I find it a bit nonsensical that we dismiss the dimorphics and "youthfulness" of female Au Ra with relative ease and the youthful androgyny of male Miqote but are so hyper focused on male viera. It's honestly not a shock that there are those who would criticize because we have gender ideals.

    smol byotiful female: yay
    smol byotiful male: >:| hOw DaRe U, tHiS iS aN eVaNgElIcAl GaMe

    Side note: If ever an argument for missing content, new flash: races are content. If races were not content, then we would all be playing male/female hyur. If this was the case, I'd probably not be playing this game. Races/gender are the entry point of my consideration for an MMO. It's a huge reason I've never played BDO. And hell, one of the first things they did in ARR was add the missing genders. Still, we dismiss the most basic of content which is our character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Í can't believe people are holding so tight against the idea of male viera being possibly shorter than females cause otherwise what, their virility suffers? I'm seeing so much gender bullshit that I just hope they make them shorter so they disappoint it all.
    Or, those of us who actually play male characters as our main want these options? It doesn't have to always go into this political basket about "norms."

    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    same for me tbh xD they would just be too similar to miqo‘te personally. i‘d have a hard time choosing wether i want a limited race or stick with my miqo boi.
    but quite some comparisons show them as the same height at least (maybe a few cm taller/smaller than f. viera). i‘d love them exactly the same size tbh, and it would make sense lorewise! i just won‘t personally like a too drastic of a difference, way smaller (au ra dimorphism) or way taller.
    I don't know where you get this idea that female Viera are tall on the male height chart, they're barely taller than male Midlander.


    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I don't get it either. Having one race with females taller than males isn't a big deal. If we're talking about real life, men tend to be taller than women, yes. But this is a fantasy race in a fantasy game - it shouldn't be a shock if they develop differently than real humans.
    Except that they used real life to determine male to female height with every race. So they are indeed using real life. Furthermore, the height debate isn't exactly about how they compare to female Viera, it's about what they bring to those who play male characters. With male Midlander and male Miqo'te having the same faces as male Viera what would that really bring to the game if they are virtually the same height? Female Viera isn't that tall when you put them on the male height chart, they're slightly taller than male Midlander.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 06-14-2021 at 10:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I don't know where you get this idea that female Viera are tall on the male height chart, they're barely taller than male Midlander.
    kind of agree, even though male viera would still tower most of the players out there (male hyur and male miqo - most played races, female popular races are even smaller) and i think they would nicely blend in between au ra and miqo.
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