Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
I'm not suggesting that the apartment price be lowered or removed.

The required GC rank actually would make a difference. GC rank isn't earned by doing MSQ outside of the rank you get when you first join. It's earned through side content the new character is ignoring as they work their way through MSQ. That (not to mention the general distaste for doing Dzemael Darkhold and Aurum Vale) slows down how fast they get to the higher ranks.

A veteran player being aware of content that requires 2nd Lt might focus on getting that rank faster. New players generally don't because the game doesn't give them that information. They only learn when hear other players mention the locked content they've never seen and start asking questions.

Lowering the GC rank requirement for an apartment would definitely get some players into apartments faster, especially if at the time they get the relevant promotion there's a message stating "you're now eligible to purchase an apartment in Mist, Lavender Beds or Goblet". What do most players do when they get a message they're eligible for new content? They go try it out.

I'm really confused why you're against this idea when you're the one that thinks players should be using apartments instead of getting houses.
I'm reading it more as the apartments costing too much and need to have a bit more relaxed GC requirements tbh. I could see there being a barracks of sorts for each grand company as a low tier form of housing (in addition to the inn room) as the GC would want to make sure that it's members are well rested for battle. Once someone reaches Sergeant Third Class, they gain access to an apartment (which would be an actual space for themselves), and players would be able to get the house at Second Lieutenant as that's the lowest officer rank (many of us that care about that are probably Captains at this point). That would also follow the ingame rank divisions you see at the quartermaster (see https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/G...ortal%20Flames ).

As far as gil goes, while 500k to you or me may not be a lot of gil... how much is that to a new player? Would 200k make more sense? 100k? 400k? 600k?

Tbh, I'm really seeing both of you in more agreement with the overall idea, just a couple of details that need hammered out.