Yoshida on "carrying" other people

[Liam_Harper]

That should be the relaxing, idgaf content where as long as people are moving in the correct direction and pressing a few buttons everything's gonna work out fine.

I doubt it's intended to be that way. It's meant to be content aimed at players who find things like Savage above their skill level, so they can still enjoy epic fights even if they aren't the best at the game. It doesn't mean they aren't trying or don't care about contributing to the team. The game is made by Japanese developers and the mindset there is about having fun but also generally about trying your best too.

It's only NA/EU that has chosen to interpret easier content and an inclusive game design as free carries, play however you want and "idgaf".

At the very least, certain contents in this game are meant for people to "carry" others. When the community at large is not able (or perhaps is refusing) to do that, those contents will get nerfed either via the echo or some other means.

Again I imagine the intention is the better players guide the less experienced, help them through and they appreciate it and learn from the experience. One reason we have a Mentor system too. NA/EU has taken that as "I play Ice mage and afk and the tryhards can carry me, whatever".

Our way of looking at it is rather toxic, because there's literally nothing in it for the ones carrying except punishment. You learn your class, gear up, practice the fight, do your best and are the reason a run goes smoothly and your "reward" is usually to be looked down on as an "elitist tryhard" and lose out on content you'd enjoy, such as Mythic 4 mans, or watch tanks and healers become gutted, because the community just isn't bothered to try or learn.

[Goji1639]

I doubt it's intended to be that way. It's meant to be content aimed at players who find things like Savage above their skill level, so they can still enjoy epic fights even if they aren't the best at the game. It doesn't mean they aren't trying or don't care about contributing to the team. The game is made by Japanese developers and the mindset there is about having fun but also generally about trying your best too.

It's only NA/EU that has chosen to interpret easier content and an inclusive game design as free carries, play however you want and "idgaf".

The goal is for new players to be able to join the instance in gear that's barely ilvl appropriate; with a rudimentary understanding of their class, no familiarity with the raids mechanics and get carried by experienced players for however long it takes for them to become experienced themselves.

That's how it's intended to be. Lazy people looking to do nothing and be carried forever isn't what they're talking about when they say they expect veterans to carry; that's just an inevitable side affect.

What I'm saying isn't really related to that, though. I just think DF Alliance raids should be the easiest content in the game by a wide margin.