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    House camping function

    instead of people killing themselves to camp a house for 40 hours, I wonder if it would be possible to have a house-camp button
    you park your character there, click "camp", and then you can physically leave your computer. when the timer triggers, 1 random player in "Camp" mode gets picked and gets that house.
    it's functionally the same as the current system, except you don't have to kill yourself sitting there pressing 2 buttons until someone relocates to the plot you are at.
    if this was implementable, it seems to me that bots and macros would have no more advantage than anyone else, everyone would have the same chance to lock their character into a plot and have a chance of getting it.
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    That's actually one of the better takes on how to address the problem I've seen posted compared to the usual lottery/raffle suggestions (assuming SE isn't planning to overhaul the purchase system entirely).

    Would effectively limit players to one "entry" per account since the character would still need to be at the placard in camp mode when the timer expires.

    Addresses player's need to be able to move away from console/computer at times though does not release player to be doing other things in game. On the other hand it effectively forces players that prefer to just check at intervals so they can also do other things in game to enter camp mode.

    Would players be free to enter/leave/re-enter camp mode so if someone wants to do something else then return they can?

    How would you suggest addressing the gil part? Does the player need to have sufficient gil on their character to pay the purchase price to be able to enter Camp mode or would they have a short period to retrieve the gil once selected? (honestly not a fan of the latter with this system because then a player could camp with multiple accounts and trade the gil around only if they "win")
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    the idea is absolute minimal change. if you cant buy it now, you still couldn't buy it with my idea. the point is to replace the current forced player real life camping "system" with something less punishing but still maintaining the core function of stopping the scalping, while ALSO making botting and macros pointless (of course doesn't help hacks but that's an SE problem).

    I didn't really think of leaving. currently you can leave anytime, so i would think you could still leave anytime. the main downside to leaving is that if the timer runs out while you aren't there, you have zero chance. seems like enough of a tradeoff too me.

    of course, all of that would depend on what the game can actually do, which I am unsure of. maybe serverload would require some kind of camp cooldown. once you stop you cant camp again for 15 minutes or something.
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    Im comfortable co-signing an idea like this(not that my opinion means anything). The system wasnt designed with camping and click spamming in mind(the devs thought you would check, see it wasnt open, and come back to check later), but if they arent going to completely redo the system then something simple-ish like this would get rid of a lot of complaints people have now. Combine that with a small tweak to the relocation rules(i liked the idea of transfering whatever timer was on the purchased house to the newly opened lot so that it would continue just getting smaller rather then resetting, and upping the cooldown on relocations to once per weekly reset) and 95% of these threads would be gone.
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    As the devs said, "players aren't supposed to sit around and click for hours."

    Just because some people have the stupid idea to do this for hours, doesn't mean you should allow bot use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    As the devs said, "players aren't supposed to sit around and click for hours."

    Just because some people have the stupid idea to do this for hours, doesn't mean you should allow bot use.

    nobody said you should allow bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    How would you suggest addressing the gil part? Does the player need to have sufficient gil on their character to pay the purchase price to be able to enter Camp mode or would they have a short period to retrieve the gil once selected? (honestly not a fan of the latter with this system because then a player could camp with multiple accounts and trade the gil around only if they "win")
    maybe pay the price for the house to camp and when you want to leave a window shows up that says "your about to leave are you sure" when yes get the gil back and the camping ends
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    /swoopsinandtransers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitsithhh View Post
    /swoopsinandtransers
    In all seriousness that is a better take. I approve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That's actually one of the better takes on how to address the problem I've seen posted
    Same.

    I actually like this idea. Have it be like a channeling that lasts 24 hours. Move or de-target placard to break channel, click again to start over. Timer ends, one channeler wins.

    And if the house is off-timer when you reach it, instead the channel would be like attuning to an aetheryte, just a few seconds.
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