You are trolling if you are not using essences and actions in Delubrum

[Aelin_Ashryver]

For me toxic players are those whose actions render me unable to play my role optimally which is the only way I enjoy playing.

Leeches are those who are well aware of their insignificant contribution but don't care about anyone else but themselves like Aelin_Ashryver for example. She admittedly stated that she couldn't be bothered to use lost actions and that every fragment she gets she sells it for personal profit. Self-centered ppl are pathetic and miserable, that's all there is to it.

I usually always have act running when I am doing dr. It is crazy how some 2%dmg output dps with 5 ray of valor stacks presumes to bash our only tank for not keeping the first boss in the center for the first mechanic. Nobody even died, besides the afk dancer that got teleported into the death zone. Some leeches are really opinionated despite the fact that they are contributing with nothing. And I always make sure to point that out in an unpleasant way.

Hmmm calls other people toxic yet you admit to afking on purpose to punish people and now you use ACT as a means to shame people for their dps!! Oh how terrible a person I am, compared to such an angel as yourself xD

[Roeshel]

Hmmm calls other people toxic yet you admit to afking on purpose to punish people and now you use ACT as a means to shame people for their dps!! Oh how terrible a person I am, compared to such an angel as yourself xD

If you don't want to be shamed for doing nothing, don't ever presume to tell others what they should have learnt at "this point in the game". You are in no position to lecture anyone about anything. First learn to play your role then look at how someone else is playing.

Angel/demon, good/bad, smart/idiot. I am all that and I choose how to appear to the people I come across. I want to be seen as toxic by pathetic leeches so I think I am doing a good job so far.

And for the previous reply.
I often disregard common rules because they do not make sense to me. And if being an adult means becoming this crazy person who respects rules without understanding or questioning them and their legitimacy then I'd rather stay a child for the rest of my life.

I am not going to not afk because I might get banned. I am even going to say it out loud cuz this what I want to do in this situation and in my head it's justified. Fact of the matter is I am not banned. Fortune favours the bold I guess. Even If I get banned which would mean that me and a gm did not get on the same page, we move on to something else. There isn't much for me to do in ffxiv anymore anyways in terms of actual content to explore. I did savage twice, got the chest the 2nd time but.... I don't really want to be waiting a whole week to do it again. When I play I want to play a lot. And the only playing with benefit I can currently do is grinding for relic. Idk, it is not very entertaining. The game seemed more fun to me when I knew nothing at the start.

[Awha]

I want to remember to you that using a third party program is strictly forbidden by SE’s ToS to avoid harassment and other malevolent behaviours. Writing a post who can be read as an harassment by some one like me, who “is trolling you because I never use any actions”, in a public official SE’s forum isn’t wise.
So, this is my final advise, sir. Enjoy your experience in the way you have fun. Don’t complain others playing, take a break if you feel nervous about something and keep in mind that out there nobody cares how long your last DR lasts. If you got frustrated for a game, you will get the same in real life...try to work on this.
Spoiler: Humbleness is not a skill incoming in 6.0

Cheers

LUL all this just to defend getting riding on the coat tails of others. I do not get why people refuse to just sit back and accept the mere notion “if” they get a group that uses essences and a handful of players are not the handful of players are getting in essence a quicker more efficient ride for free that one run.

Please stop hiding behind “fun” when it comes to reaping the benefits of others effort. Sure for the most part most PUG groups probably will not use them, but in the off chance you do luck into one that does use them please accept for that run you were carried. You can be proud that you are having fun your way, but at the very least be honest about what the group did for ya if they are using essences.

[Roeshel]

3) When you are seeing your parses and your analyses keep in mind: “My parses maybe good enough to be considered a “”””””pro”””””” but all these numbers are useful if I am a child”.

This is very weird to read. I've encountered others who told me that not everybody can be "a pro like me" or "as good as me".

First of all I am not a pro. My dps is green for savage content in the easiest job in the game - whm. Maybe I am good in terms of doing dmg in dungeons cuz I uploaded some random logs while doing dailies and my dps was in orange.

In any case, being able to think is not being a pro. Everybody who earns their money on their own has enough brain capacity to figure out basic stuff about a game. I don't like underestimating people and thinking that they are that dense that they can't figure out how to play. Nope, in almost all cases it is out of lack of respect for your teammates. This could be due to utter negligence or intentional.

I've noticed that the higher-level people are much less likely to change anything about their playstyle, unlike new folks. Pretty common, it's the same with habits irl. Some players have just made it their habit to disrespect others with their playstyle and label it as fun. Disgusting perversion of reality.

[Vahlnir]

For me toxic players are those whose actions render me unable to play my role optimally which is the only way I enjoy playing.

Leeches are those who are well aware of their insignificant contribution but don't care about anyone else but themselves like Aelin_Ashryver for example. She admittedly stated that she couldn't be bothered to use lost actions and that every fragment she gets she sells it for personal profit. Self-centered ppl are pathetic and miserable, that's all there is to it.

I usually always have act running when I am doing dr. It is crazy how some 2%dmg output dps with 5 ray of valor stacks presumes to bash our only tank for not keeping the first boss in the center for the first mechanic. Nobody even died, besides the afk dancer that got teleported into the death zone. Some leeches are really opinionated despite the fact that they are contributing with nothing. And I always make sure to point that out in an unpleasant way.

A few things here...

First, some players just aren't going to be on your level. A simple fact of MMORPG life. Hello, and welcome. First time? That doesn't make them toxic, at least most of the time. That part is largely in your head, and your head only. As far as Aelin goes...sure, I don't agree with their approach at all on this, but you, me or anyone else are not going to change their minds. And there's plenty of other players with a similar mindset. So...about all we can do is roll with the punches and do our thing. They have also said that they DO use them when available, but it's not their main concern. I wouldn't call it leeching per say since they are putting forth some effort, albeit at a slightly weaker (trying to be nice here) state in DR. What I consider leeching is anyone who literally does nothing while other players do everything. This isn't entirely the case with Aelin and some others. Could they be doing more? Sure. Should they? Absolutely, in my opinion. It's group content! Are they doing nothing? No, I don't believe so. Just not as much as they could be. Honestly, I think you are being way more toxic about this than some of those who you oppose. All of that said, you using Act, and admitting to it openly, is risky at best. If you are going to use such things, don't bring attention to yourself. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with your party members' actions. What matters is that you are openly using a third party tool that's against the ToS. I'm guessing if you are fine with admitting it here you are okay with admitting it in game as well. It's only a matter of time before your account gets a temporary ban at the very least.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

A few things here...

First, some players just aren't going to be on your level. A simple fact of MMORPG life. Hello, and welcome. First time? That doesn't make them toxic, at least most of the time. That part is largely in your head, and your head only. As far as Aelin goes...sure, I don't agree with their approach at all on this, but you, me or anyone else are not going to change their minds. And there's plenty of other players with a similar mindset. So...about all we can do is roll with the punches and do our thing. They have also said that they DO use them when available, but it's not their main concern. I wouldn't call it leeching per say since they are putting forth some effort, albeit at a slightly weaker (trying to be nice here) state in DR. What I consider leeching is anyone who literally does nothing while other players do everything. This isn't entirely the case with Aelin and some others. Could they be doing more? Sure. Should they? Absolutely, in my opinion. It's group content! Are they doing nothing? No, I don't believe so. Just not as much as they could be. Honestly, I think you are being way more toxic about this than some of those who you oppose. All of that said, you using Act, and admitting to it openly, is risky at best. If you are going to use such things, don't bring attention to yourself. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with your party members' actions. What matters is that you are openly using a third party tool that's against the ToS. I'm guessing if you are fine with admitting it here you are okay with admitting it in game as well. It's only a matter of time before your account gets a temporary ban at the very least.

Tried my hand with some friends at more cluster farm. It has been so much time since I last done it I have forgotten on how to be efficient about it! Some of the fragments at this point are 35k+ on my server it's just ludicrous pricing. So I sold most and kept a few for the sake of some PF DR runs. They went nicely! I really do not see the rage over duty finder still, it will never be efficient. Esp do not understand this person at all being uber toxic. He does not punish me with his actions more people like yourself or other peers who want the quicker runs. *shrug*

I would say my tolerance for the farming is still very low. But the money aspect I would say is my motivator, plus being able to do the PF runs now and again will be good :3

[Vahlnir]

He does not punish me with his actions more people like yourself or other peers who want the quicker runs. *shrug*

Here's the thing. I may disagree with you on your overall stance, but if we got grouped together and I noticed you weren't using an essence in DR...I would not say a word. Would I wish that every person had an essence equipped? Of course I would. But I'd never expect it. It would just be nice. I feel a certain way about it is all. It doesn't bother me THAT much. The forums are a better place for debate and feedback than the middle of a dungeon or raid, so that is where I do most of my talking. I generally don't hold anything against people unless they've got a reputation for being rather unpleasant. We could be having an entirely separate debate right now in some random thread and the tone would be quite different.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Here's the thing. I may disagree with you on your overall stance, but if we got grouped together and I noticed you weren't using an essence in DR...I would not say a word. Would I wish that every person had an essence equipped? Of course I would. But I'd never expect it. It would just be nice. I feel a certain way about it is all. It doesn't bother me THAT much. The forums are a better place for debate and feedback than the middle of a dungeon or raid, so that is where I do most of my talking. I generally don't hold anything against people unless they've got a reputation for being rather unpleasant. We could be having an entirely separate debate right now in some random thread and the tone would be quite different.

Of course, we might disagree. Hell even if we did have a more toxic debate. I don't hold a grudge or even stay irritated long. Can quite happily hold a conversation with people I might not agree with or generally get along with. If I am on this forum I know I will get a certain set of responses, some will be polite others rude and I can respond in kind. And two seconds later I can be derping on league or in some other ff content and forgotten all about it until I get an urge for some amusement and come back!

[Roeshel]

I'm guessing if you are fine with admitting it here you are okay with admitting it in game as well. It's only a matter of time before your account gets a temporary ban at the very least.

I am not stating in the game that I am using act unless I am talking with trusted people. I understood that much from my first thread where everybody warned me about mentioning act logs in a report. The devs do not want to publically encourage the use of act.

I was left with the impression people can have open discussions about it in the forums because I did say in my first thread that I am using act and again my account was not banned. There was that one person who was really obsessed with everyone following the rules and that no one should be using act under any circumstances and that "the ban hammer should fall upon my ToS violating head". I am pretty sure she took her time to report me.

And to aelin, I had a run like that only once from 17 in total. Afking is not common practice for me as it is not to get so disorganized players. And by afking I meant rezzing from the start when I die. It is practically the same when the boss fights take 10mins, the only difference is that I at least get to deal dmg and actually play the game for the first couple of mins before the 2nd unavoidable aoe hits or even faster if I eat a mechanic.

[technole]

I had a WoL NM party that many of us reported an AFKer a month ago, they got so mad someone new failed the button check and wiped a few times another pull I saw they did no damage, they just hung around and said words I wouldn't say in-game. You can AFK in the game, legally, with permission. Most of the time in these situations people do more than AFK, they become petty about something then take it out on others, which is a good way to end up with a ticket to a GM.


The punishment for not using essences in Dalriada can sometimes be felt. Like if you have 21 people to not have echo, maybe enough new people, and then not enough people use them but end up taking too long or wiping in the hallways, bosses, etc. Low DPS along with deaths will add up and the clock will run out.

DR the clock isn't as low, which I think it should be lower, or they should add the enrages. Because in savage it's required to use pure essences to even make the DPS checks. It's just a poorly tuned dungeon because the variance between a good run of 20 minutes to 40+ minutes with 24 people shouldn't be that high.