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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    complaint for complaint, if you dont want an UE server, u have another 9 internetional.


    I am Spanish, i am hoping to be on EU LS, i dont care if you are german, french, rusian, englishman... i want people to play on my timezone and to talk them in english.

    Think about this: in a future, Ragnarok will remain as EU server so new players (without bonds or friends in another servers) probably will go there, and the other 9 servers will go low in EU population, not global population: If you have a big LS you probably will not have any problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Exactly and we have to think to the futur too, maybe some new players (i hope) will come to 1.21 and later so the server could grow up and have more and more diversity, cultures etc.

    Yes exactly - we have to think of the future as well. So us who choose not to go the the EU server will never see other new EU people joining because we don't have that tag on our server? Again, people are illustrating my point. This will pigeon-hole a section of the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    Yes exactly - we have to think of the future as well. So us who choose not to go the the EU server will never see other new EU people joining because we don't have that tag on our server? Again, people are illustrating my point. This will pigeon-hole a section of the player base.
    So you're are saying if we had started originally with one server tagged as EU you would have gone there ?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    So you're are saying if we had started originally with one server tagged as EU you would have gone there ?
    No, because I know better from being a long time 11 player. Other people will not have that welath of knowledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Thats's the point though SE have done their homework and know that the EU population isn't big enough to spread over multiple EU server.
    Thats funny, you're saying it like its an adamant fact. The server is being made as an experiment for all intents and purposes. They obviously haven't done enough of their homework yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    If that were the case we wouldn't even need an EU server to begin with.
    Again, it hasn't been determined if its "needed".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    People dont mind being pigeon holded if it means they can play during their prime time, obviously you and others do, but some of us don't.
    Fair enough - people like you who never had other to play with would feel that way. People like me (and others) who've never had a problem from day one (on several severs) like playing with multiple people from multiple lands. Pigeon holing - or rather the lack of - is what made FF series unique in that way. A collage of worldly players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    As the post above said their are 9 other servers to choose if you would prefer to be on an international server.
    And it again insinuates that new EU people joining might have to think "Oh geez, I better go there cause thats where all/most of the EU players are". Its punishing to us who don't want to go there. There should be several EU friendly servers. There was never a need to designate one. Its ridiculous.
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    Vackashken, i dont think regional servers is something bad, i dont care if someone is japanese or german, for me is an interaction in another language, but i care if i am playing on a server where when i am playing there is noone on the streets, and when i am sleeping there are tons of people playing.

    People dont have 12 hour at day to play and meet with another communitys, somepeople only play from 20:00 to 24:00 or less

    Japan midnight is at 16:00 EU... And NA "hot time" start when we are going to sleep. Is good to meet another cultures and countries, but not at cost 1% of my gameplay coz i will meet another countries inside my timezone.
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    Ok fair enough, you seem to be only looking at this from your point of view and how it effects you.

    Nevermind the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Ok fair enough, you seem to be only looking at this from your point of view and how it effects you.

    Nevermind the rest of us.
    Sometimes my cats breath smells like tuna.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Vackashken, i dont think regional servers is something bad, i dont care if someone is japanese or german, for me is an interaction in another language, but i care if i am playing on a server where when i am playing there is noone on the streets, and when i am sleeping there are tons of people playing.
    Because that has happened to you doesn't mean it has happened to everyone. There are several EU LSes that have survived and thrived on several different servers. You guys are arguing your point that you think having one EU server is a good idea. I think it is a bad idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    People dont have 12 hour at day to play and meet with another communitys, somepeople only play from 20:00 to 24:00 or less
    That doesn't change my perspective on this in the slightest. Just encase you're imply that I do have time I have a 6 month old son, work, weight lift, have an 11 year old step daughter. My time is limited. None of the changes the idea of pigeon holing new people onto one server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Japan midnight is at 16:00 EU... And NA "hot time" start when we are going to sleep. Is good to meet another cultures and countries, but not at cost 1% of my gameplay coz i will meet another countries inside my timezone.
    Again, just because it didn't work out for you and other doesn't make it universal. We have worked like this for a year in this game and 5 in 11. Cornelia has a strong EU base and well as selbina plus my home fabul. You're arguing from you jaded perspective. No insult intended. Part of this games appeal is playing with many others from many other places.

    Why should people (again I ask) who choose not to go there be punished? There are several EU LSes not going from a few servers. So we will never see an influx of new EU people if we don't go? They never should have designated an EU server. They should have merged worlds and let people who didn't like it go where they want. Then you would have several choices as to which EU friendly server you could have gone to.

    Now future people *(if this sticks) will think they must go to 10 if they're going to have anyone to play with when that is blatantly untrue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post

    Why should people (again I ask) who choose not to go there be punished? There are several EU LSes not going from a few servers. So we will never see an influx of new EU people if we don't go? They never should have designated an EU server.
    The Eu tag on Ragnarok is not supposed to be there permanently. Its only for the merge in order to allow the current EU people to gather here.

    Once again there is a difference between english and french traduction:

    Ragnarok will be recommended for players in the European time zones. This should improve the playing experience for European players, who form a small minority scattered across the Worlds, and make it easier for them to get together and form parties

    In french:

    Le Monde "Ragnarok", nouvellement créé, sera recommandé aux joueurs de la zone horaire européenne. Ce dispositif, temporaire, a pour but de rassembler ces joueurs à l’effectif réduit pour leur permettre de trouver plus facilement des partenaires et ainsi améliorer leur confort de jeu.

    In the french traduction, they clearly explain that the EU tag is here for a short time.

    Ragnarok will be an international server with a strong EU base, once the servers merge is done, a new player will not see an EU tag on Ragnarok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkel View Post
    =Ragnarok will be an international server with a strong EU base, once the servers merge is done, a new player will not see an EU tag on Ragnarok.
    If thats the case I am pretty much fine with that. Honestly.

    Thanks, Alkel.
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    You were faster than me Alkel haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkel View Post

    In french:

    Le Monde "Ragnarok", nouvellement créé, sera recommandé aux joueurs de la zone horaire européenne. Ce dispositif, temporaire, a pour but de rassembler ces joueurs à l’effectif réduit pour leur permettre de trouver plus facilement des partenaires et ainsi améliorer leur confort de jeu.

    In the french traduction, they clearly explain that the EU tag is here for a short time.

    Ragnarok will be an international server with a strong EU base, once the servers merge is done, a new player will not see an EU tag on Ragnarok.
    Hmm that changes things, not even sure I wana go there now, typical of the english translators to get it wrong again.
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