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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    Must be farming Halitali. You will get better results if you mined Cederwood and Iron Lake. Alumen stops at Grade3 here.
    Rizon pretty much nailed it. Grade2 has iron ore, but the droprate is smaller than mining Grade3 nodes. I leveled on g3 yesterday and got about 2 stacks of iron ore and no alumen.

    Try mining bloodshore.
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    Almost every spot has a junk item, alumen, brimstone, kukuru beans(bot)...

    The only change I would suggest to you is the depth marker like someone else mentioned before. Don't change it accoording to the message, focus it on the ore you want.

    And I'm suprised you didn't get any electrum ores!
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    No thanks as a leatherworker I need as much Alumen as I can get.

    Grade 4 and 5 nodes don't produce much Alumen at all FWIW.

    Try increasing your perception I think this has an effect on the rarity of items you procure.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 02-19-2012 at 12:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jashynvald View Post
    Well, I wouldn't call it barely useful considering it's in every piece of armor that uses leather (needed for tanning hides) though I still will agree that it's drop rate from Halatali is a tad on the high side compared to the amount of rawhide that lands on the market (your server may vary). At this point, it's vendor trash like brimstone and only the HQs are worth saving up.
    I don't consider an ingredient that is utilized by 1 class as being useful enough to permit its excessive drop rate throughout so many different ranking nodes.

    A.K.A, why am i still looting this at 50 in high perception gear?
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    Last edited by Avraym; 02-19-2012 at 12:17 AM.

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    It is used in 41 recipes in both LTW and ALC, ranging from level 4 to level 46 recipes.

    And yes, if you want higher quality items, raise perception, its the point of the stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avraym View Post
    I have the same issue with alumen. I think theres 30 something stacks (3000+) in my retainer.

    And its barely even useful as an ingridient.

    I'm hoping new alchemist recipes will utilize it more.
    Start selling like I did....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    No thanks as a leatherworker I need as much Alumen as I can get.

    Grade 4 and 5 nodes don't produce much Alumen at all FWIW.

    Try increasing your perception I think this has an effect on the rarity of items you procure.
    Lately I've been feeling like perception just affects HQ item rates and gathering affects your likelihood of getting what you aim for

    Try boosting the gathering stat that everyone likes to ignore while mining and see if that doesn't change your perspective
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    Last edited by Rydin; 02-19-2012 at 04:47 AM.

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    I went out mining earlier today in halatali
    Level 50 Miner
    Gathering 133
    Output 122
    Perception 93
    Vitality 247
    Mind 240

    I went until I damaged 6 out of the 8 chops per node (Gathering fatigue)
    I use the Electrum sweet Spot (+4) the entire time
    I got:
    82 Iron Ore
    69 Zircon
    59 Amber
    417 Alumen
    63 Alumen +1
    302 Alectrum ore
    74 Electrum ore +1

    My Alumen to Electrum Ratio is 5/4
    Not bad considering Alumen drops up to 4 and Electrum drops 1 at a time.
    This shows that for me... with those stats... at the electrum sweet spot... I get more electrum chops than all other items combined
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    No thanks as a leatherworker I need as much Alumen as I can get.

    Grade 4 and 5 nodes don't produce much Alumen at all FWIW.

    Try increasing your perception I think this has an effect on the rarity of items you procure.
    perception doesnt change what the item is

    just the chance for more of it or HQs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    I went out mining earlier today in halatali
    Level 50 Miner
    Gathering 133
    Output 122
    Perception 93
    Vitality 247
    Mind 240

    I went until I damaged 6 out of the 8 chops per node (Gathering fatigue)
    I use the Electrum sweet Spot (+4) the entire time
    I got:
    82 Iron Ore
    69 Zircon
    59 Amber
    417 Alumen
    63 Alumen +1
    302 Alectrum ore
    74 Electrum ore +1

    My Alumen to Electrum Ratio is 5/4
    Not bad considering Alumen drops up to 4 and Electrum drops 1 at a time.
    This shows that for me... with those stats... at the electrum sweet spot... I get more electrum chops than all other items combined
    you bring up a point here alot of people dont consider

    alumen drops more per swing then other stuff

    this also means perception has a higher rate of effect on it giving more then other stuff

    your perception may give you an average of lets say 1.5 iron per swing, but on the other hand it would be closer to 2.5-3 alumen per swing and so on
    and of course electrum is 1 per swing period

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