Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Hunky]

I’m excited to see what their hairstyle options will be.

Female Viera have 8 different hairstyle options. 7 of those options come with 2 variants, and one comes with 3 (including a helmeted variant).



Notice how the official illustration art features 3 of those hairstyles.

I’m not sure if male Viera will have as many variants aside from the helmeted one, but I think they will get at least 8 different hairstyle options.

Looking at the trailer and official images, it seems 5 have already been revealed.

This hairstyle was featured extensively in the trailer. They also gave us a look at how it would appear with additional dye.


Though this hairstyle was not featured in the trailer, it is featured in the official male Veena render art. I think it’s safe to say that this hairstyle will be available as a playable option.


This hairstyle was featured briefly in the trailer. It is a shorter style, and might end up being the shortest option.


This one was also featured briefly in the trailer. It is on the shorter side, but is also more elaborate.


Despite this hairstyle being obscured by the helmet, it is clearly different from the other hairstyles we’ve seen. It seems this will be a helmeted variant of the hairstyle featured in the official illustration art.


If there is a total of 8 hairstyle options for male Viera, that means 3 haven’t been revealed yet. What do you think, or hope, they’ll be? And out of the ones we've seen so far, which one's your favorite?

[SturmChurro]

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All I'm seeing here are resources that could have been spent on 8 more female viera hairstyles - with resources to spare (as in new male hrothgar heads/hairs too). I hope you all like your hairstyles, because that's all they are getting for the next couple years, and they definitely aren't getting hats. probably.

[Hunky]

All I'm seeing here are resources that could have been spent on 8 more female viera hairstyles - with resources to spare (as in new male hrothgar heads/hairs too). I hope you all like your hairstyles, because that's all they are getting for the next couple years, and they definitely aren't getting hats. probably.

I know the devs had to make a really difficult decision, and I think they made the decision they felt would make more players happy, and that was to make male Viera playable.

I know that it must've taken a lot of time and effort. And I know they'll have their hands full with female Hrothgar as well and this too will impact hairstyle options for Viera (both male and female).

With that being said, however, I would prefer they prioritize female Hrothgar over new hairstyles (even when I myself play as male Viera), simply because I believe genderlocking races should never be a thing (just like how genderlocking or racelocking classes/jobs should never be a thing). I trust that we'll have more options; things just have to happen at the right time.

[SturmChurro]

I know the devs had to make a really difficult decision, and I think they made the decision they felt would make more players happy, and that was to make male Viera playable.

I know that it must've taken a lot of time and effort. And I know they'll have their hands full with female Hrothgar as well and this too will impact hairstyle options for Viera (both male and female).

With that being said, however, I would prefer they prioritize female Hrothgar over new hairstyles (even when I myself play as male Viera), simply because I believe genderlocking races should never be a thing (just like how genderlocking or racelocking classes/jobs should never be a thing). I trust that we'll have more options; things just have to happen at the right time.

I think it's the decision they thought would make them more money. Another limited race: more fantasia sales. No hairs: more fantasia sales. Female hrothgar a race relatively NOBODY will play, that will probably have the same amount of issues the (seemingly ignored) male hrothgar have, requiring fantasia to even change their singular hair.

I'm sorry, BUT WHO CARES if viera and hrothgar were gender locked?! Like seriously. Viera were chosen over femhroth initially, and put on the backburner for male viera BECAUSE it's a big female furry race, that only a small niche will actually play, in my opinion. They stated female viera/male hroth was "the last chance" to add any new races to this game, yet out of left field they come out with male viera. Probably to satisfy a loud minority who spam them relentlessly over twitch, twitter, youtube, whatever. One hit wonder race, that will, ironically, be there as a 'SURPRISE' selling point for EW, because I don't see much else super exciting. ShB overall as an expansion was a joke (not the story), in my opinion. Everything feels half done, including the races.

They have to have meetings just to figure out how they can more easily allocate resources for hairstyles, here's a suggestion of mine: How about not add male viera, promise female hrothgar, after also promising to add additional hairstyles, or customization options for female viera/male hrothgar two years prior! In my opinion.

[WhiteArchmage]

I'm sorry, BUT WHO CARES if viera and hrothgar were gender locked?! Like seriously. Viera were chosen over femhroth initially, and put on the backburner for male viera BECAUSE it's a big female furry race, that only a small niche will actually play, in my opinion. They stated female viera/male hroth was "the last chance" to add any new races to this game, yet out of left field they come out with male viera. Probably to satisfy a loud minority who spam them relentlessly over twitch, twitter, youtube, whatever. One hit wonder race, that will, ironically, be there as a 'SURPRISE' selling point for EW, because I don't see much else super exciting. ShB overall as an expansion was a joke (not the story), in my opinion. Everything feels half done, including the races.

*Looks at 2 threads that each broke 1k likes, one which nears 2k, questions being asked every other interview, a couple of streaming personalities, and more*

...enough people, it seems.

I'll try to say this as kindly and neutrally as possible but... you may want to take a step back and a little break because obviously the subject of Viera hairstyles is too important to you, but it doesn't mean you can shout down other people who got what they were hoping for for 2 years.

[SturmChurro]

*Looks at 2 threads that each broke 1k likes, one which nears 2k, questions being asked every other interview, a couple of streaming personalities, and more*

...enough people, it seems.

I'll try to say this as kindly and neutrally as possible but... you may want to take a step back and a little break because obviously the subject of Viera hairstyles is too important to you, but it doesn't mean you can shout down other people who got what they were hoping for for 2 years.

Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.

[Hunky]

Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.

Of course you should be able to give your opinion. People have the right to have different opinions, and even though I disagree with yours, I totally respect it and support you to have it and express it.

I do agree that it's a bummer that female Viera and male Hrothgar haven't gotten any more hairstyle options (and it's especially disheartening that Hrothgar have to use a fantasia just to switch hairstyles).

However, I think the dev team made the right decision by prioritizing male Viera and female Hrothgar. I say this even as someone who definitely plans on playing male Viera (I've been hoping for them since the concept art was revealed back in Heavensward).

And yes, while most players will not stick with male Viera or female Hrothgar, it will be greatly appreciated from those who do to have them playable.

EDIT: Responding to your other post, I don't think female Hrothgar and male Viera will be super unpopular. I think there will be a good-sized population of both, just like how male Hrothgar and female Viera ended up. Even though male Hrothgar didn't turn out to be as popular as female Viera, they did end up having a fairly good-sized population (on some servers, Hrothgar outnumber both male Roegadyn and male Elezen).

While I do think female Hrothgar won't be as popular as female Viera, much less so female Au Ra and female Miqo'te, they'll definitely offer an option for players who like bestial races. Personally, I'm not a fan of bestial races, but I totally am on board with more variety. Female Au Ra and female Miqo'te will continue to dominate the population, of course, but it will nice to see female Hrothgar around too.

[Anvaire]

Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.

Frankly, i think its not about giving your opinion its about how you articulate it. The issue with hair, while annoying, i think is quite minor in the grand scheme of things. I hope that they are sorted out in the future, but realistcally i think the issue isnt as big as it is often stated. I appreciate its important to some people, and i truly hope the fix is there in the future. But, i dont think its something thats easy to do.

If I recall, and i havent gone back to check, you were one of those who were very vocallyagainst the addition of the missing genders and i acknowledge that thats a fair and reasonable stance to take. But there was clear demand for them, from the threads on here, twitter to every live letter or square event having the chat flooded with la hee and add male viera / Female Hrothgar.

While 2000 likes isn't a large number compared to the playerbase. It is still a measure, and unless it counts the other sections of the community is still a large number of players showing interest and clear Demand. That is before we factor in those who simply replied with their support but didnt given a like. I Personally feel its a very erroneous approach to call it "nothing." Even if it was just one player asking, its still valid eedback to give and request. The devs listen, that much i am certain of, they listen and they do what they can. There are ample examples of this. Of course i was one those who wanted male viera and female hrothgar added so my stance is somewhat biased. That said, given a scale of value vs dev time, Male viera vs Additional hairstyle fixes, Male viera would always be arguably the choice they would make. It was an opportunity to drive excitement in ways that annoucing a "fix" i dont think would. Thats my take on it.

All hope isnt lost though, as Yoshi P mentioned in an interview that he was aware and they were looking at where they could allocate the resource to fix. He did reiterate, as was annouced when the SHB races were revealed, that all hair would not be available. They have been very upfront about it.

[WhiteArchmage]

Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.

You asked who cares. I answered. I'll say it again, it's not bad to care about hairstyles. But deliberately coming into the male Viera thread to raise a stink because we got males instead of hairstyles is... well at the very least it comes across as deliberately combative. Heck, among the very same people here we want male Viera AND hairstyles, it's not one or the other. Hairstyles were confirmed, they're coming, at some point.

[grinkdaboy]

Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.

dont care lol we won you lost deal with it