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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    Long A: First off, the reason why Viera and Hrothgar can't wear hats right now is the following. We have very standardized specifications when it comes to head gear and the unique design with the long ears on Viera doesn't always meet these specifications. If we allowed every head gear piece, it would lead to clipping or other errors. The unique design of Viera and Hrothgar just prevents us from allowing these pieces, if we want to follow our specifications
    Nevertheless, we are aware of player feedback and we are definitely not the kind of dev team that ignores their players feedback. (Healers would like to know your location)
    There were a few things we said would be impossible to do, but we worked hard on it and made it possible in the end... I hope to have some good news soon.
    I've been doing software development for 30 years now. You don't ignore hard requirements like this and expect to keep your job but that just seems to be par for the course in the games dev niche. I had thought Square was better than this, boy was I wrong.
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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Alessia Adaka
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    I've been doing software development for 30 years now. You don't ignore hard requirements like this and expect to keep your job but that just seems to be par for the course in the games dev niche. I had thought Square was better than this, boy was I wrong.
    Did you perchance miss Final Fantasy XIV 1.0? Marvel's Avengers? The Mankind Divided Augment Your Preorder scam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    Did you perchance miss Final Fantasy XIV 1.0? Marvel's Avengers? The Mankind Divided Augment Your Preorder scam?
    I would have thought the hard lessons learned with 1.0 would have stuck. I guess not.

    I know little about Avengers but aren't they a separate studio under Square? Due to Square's hiring requirements I know they struggle finding people so I'm not super surprised that didn't get their A team. Shame, I had some interest in that. As a matter of practice I stay away from new MMO's until the studio can demonstrate they know how to deliver a solid experience.

    Mankind is completely off my radar.
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    Last edited by GeminiReed; 05-31-2021 at 12:34 AM.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    I've been doing software development for 30 years now. You don't ignore hard requirements like this and expect to keep your job but that just seems to be par for the course in the games dev niche. I had thought Square was better than this, boy was I wrong.
    It's exactly what they've been saying from Day 1. They couldn't make Viera look exactly the way they wanted AND let them wear hats, but they hoped to make them somewhat compatible over time.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    As for the reaper thing...that's pretty obvious.

    Scythe attacks
    Voidsent oGCDS
    Player+Voidsent is just that "symbiote" mode that I assume is a dps burst phase.

    It reminds me of Berserker Guts, Hollow Ichigo, Eddie Brock/Venom and what have you.

    I'm looking forward to learning more about both Sage and Reaper and what lies beyond what they've shown us.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    I’m hoping for them to give more info on sage. Seems like they just devoted a lot of time to explaining Reaper and all we got for sage was “augments self attacks and shields”
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    Mahamon's Avatar
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    Sascha Maan
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I’m hoping for them to give more info on sage. Seems like they just devoted a lot of time to explaining Reaper and all we got for sage was “augments self attacks and shields”
    Us, healer, is a third-class citizen. We don't even get our special mount like a tank. ¯\(°_o)/¯
    There's no new healer for 2 expansions straight. And now that it's coming they don't even get mentioned.
    This feels almost like being a middle child. You only exist when you fail. XD
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I’m hoping for them to give more info on sage. Seems like they just devoted a lot of time to explaining Reaper and all we got for sage was “augments self attacks and shields”
    Go read the original article (use the translate button on your browser if you have one).

    With the Digital Fan Fest firmly in mind, Reaper was obviously the more newsworthy Topic for the Interviewer. The questions are those of the publication. Yeah, sure, be disappointed that no direct questions about Sage were asked, but blame that on the Interviewer, not SE.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They add viera/hrothgar, then it feels like they completely forget about them. No updates, limited. Then they add in male viera - who will be just as limited, and then they are going to add another beast race gender - that probably won't be able to change their single hair without fantasia. While I like viera, I really question if it was actually worth the resources spent and will ultimately be spent on maintaining this race.
    For all the constant talk about hairstyles and hats (or gender locks for that matter) it doesn't completely define the race unless people insist on it. The character models are there and you can create a range of characters even if there aren't as many choices as for other races. Though I agree that I hope they can keep up with what they've started - given that Yoshida said they couldn't afford the resources and people just kept pushing and demanding it. (I am personally glad they're coming but I wish it didn't come with such an uneasy edge to the reasons and the consequences.)

    As for hairstyles, naturally the people speaking loudest about the issue are the people who do want to regularly change their hair, but I would love to know what actual percentage of the playerbase this adds up to. How many people alter their characters and how many pick a hairstyle at the character creation stage and never touch it again?

    Most of my characters still have the same hairstyle they started with. I very occasionally change it because I can, but I wouldn't miss the ability if it wasn't available.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    For all the constant talk about hairstyles and hats (or gender locks for that matter) it doesn't completely define the race unless people insist on it. The character models are there and you can create a range of characters even if there aren't as many choices as for other races. Though I agree that I hope they can keep up with what they've started - given that Yoshida said they couldn't afford the resources and people just kept pushing and demanding it. (I am personally glad they're coming but I wish it didn't come with such an uneasy edge to the reasons and the consequences.)

    As for hairstyles, naturally the people speaking loudest about the issue are the people who do want to regularly change their hair, but I would love to know what actual percentage of the playerbase this adds up to. How many people alter their characters and how many pick a hairstyle at the character creation stage and never touch it again?

    Most of my characters still have the same hairstyle they started with. I very occasionally change it because I can, but I wouldn't miss the ability if it wasn't available.
    Then maybe they shouldn't release hairstyles at all, and focus those development resources elsewhere? As in, nothing for any other race too, as it can't be that many players who change something as minuscule as a hair? Perhaps we could have seen better looking relic weapons or more tangible rewards like mounts. Frankly, mounts would be more useful to collect for a viera/hrothgar player - they can actually use them.

    It's not the devs fault if a hrothgar player wants to change to their other hairstyle: there are fantasias available on the mogstation! Same with viera. If a viera player wants to change their look: there are fantasias available on the mogstation! There are a plethora of other player races available in FFXIV, if someone just has to change their hair. Working as intended, I'd say.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-01-2021 at 02:40 AM.
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