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  1. #21
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Could someone explain to me their whole clipping argument? Literally almost every single piece of gear in this game clips in some way or form. At first they added holes for miqote tails in glams but then at some point just said screw it. 99% of hairstyles clip through headpieces or the ears just completely disappear. So...why is clipping for Viera an argument when it’s no different than the huge clipping issues we already have? As far as the whole development cost things goes...i genuinely don’t see how much more they can cut development costs seeing how much content we lost this expansion. Are we going to lose more in 6.0 as well?
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    That first no makes me lol. " No " Tho honestly, It must be extremely hard for them to get these things to work on a world wide way. Either that or it's simply a time issue. It might be a time issue, as they are doing EW work, job updates and everything that needs to be done for the new Xpax. And on that note.. PR is evil.

    I bet he wishes nothing more but to be extremely blunt and upfront but there's noway he can be that without the press taking what he says and twisting it for clicks and drama. PR is evil. And made by Eggman comfirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    God that's really sad. Newgame+ and fantasia addictions are not a replacement for exploring the game as different characters.
    Except it literally is. If you want to do that, Fantasia and New Game+ are there for you.

    In a game where you can be literally any job on a single character, alts don't make a lot of sense.

    Especially when there are so many critics out there who say that the story is "over long".
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Could someone explain to me their whole clipping argument?
    He does say "clipping or other errors" which suggests there more to it. Maybe things interact in some strange way behind the scenes.

    I also suspect the clipping could be a lot more glaring than it is for Au Ra horns. At least those emerge where ears would be on other races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post

    TLDR
    Short answer to all questions: No.
    Reaper has 3 types of actions, scythe, avatar, joint scythe+avatar
    Its sounding like a burst dps
    Fixed, also:

    Reaper: SMN+SAM+DRG = SSD.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Could someone explain to me their whole clipping argument?
    Hrothgar: The hair is part of the head mesh. The head mesh is the problem. To fit helmet on the head means the hair will poke through. I think due to the hair sharing the mesh, they can't "zero" it out(hide it) like the hair for other races which are detached as that would mean the head gets hidden.
    Viera: The ears are part of the head mesh. The ears is the problem. To fit helmet on head means tickering with the ears. To my fellow viera players, I know this doesn't explain why they haven't made new hair(even unique to the race).

    I'm having to remember how skinning and rigging works and stuff as I type this. Also deformation is one of the harder things in 3D modeling.. it was for me at least. Some dresses/waist capes/capes have au ra and mi'qot tails clipping.. You'd think making a simple "hole" would be an easy fix, but they must account for the bones associated with the tails and it's swinging and swaying during certain animations. You have to deform the mesh to account for all that movement.. It will look perfect if the character is standing still not moving. Then the character starts running, and here we go....

    Also, they wish to avoid retroactive fitting(I might be wrong here because it's clear they use base templates for all the gear in this game, judging by how much the same models gets recycled), i.e. having to go and edit all the ARR gear and stuff.

    Finally, this is all just a best guess of mine, I don't work at SE so I can't possibly know what really is the issues they have.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 05-31-2021 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    In a game where you can be literally any job on a single character, alts don't make a lot of sense.
    The game has a significant portion of role-players, though. To the point that many fluff features are designed specifically for their benefit. Which, in turn, makes me suspect that the real issue is not wanting to do anything that'd threaten to eat into fantasia and story skip sales.

    Even putting aside role-players...sometimes people just like having different characters to play. You technically only need one character to do everything in a game such as Dark Souls or Monster Hunter World but that doesn't mean people don't create multiple characters there.
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  7. #27
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    Fixed, also:

    Reaper: SMN+SAM+DRG = SSD.


    Hrothgar: The hair is part of the head mesh. The head mesh is the problem. To fit helmet on the head means the hair will poke through. I think due to the hair sharing the mesh, they can't "zero" it out(hide it) like the hair for other races which are detached as that would mean the head gets hidden.
    Viera: The ears are part of the head mesh. The ears is the problem. To fit helmet on head means tickering with the ears.

    I'm having to remember how skinning and rigging works and stuff as I type this.

    Also, they wish to avoid retroactive fitting(I might be wrong here because it's clear they use base templates for all the gear in this game, judging by how much the same models gets recycled), i.e. having to go and edit all the ARR gear and stuff.
    But the thing is, i could understand not adjusting older gear. It’s the new gear that makes no sense to me. Why can’t they make the new gear work for them? Or hairstyles? It’s just really baffling to me it’s been an entire expansion with seemingly no improvements on that front.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    From a german interview with yoshida, translated over by the kind folks on the reddit discord

    https://www.buffed.de/Final-Fantasy-...rview-1372927/

    Q: A lot of players enjoy making new characters, but get scared of having to redo everything. Are there any plans to make Achievements, Minions and Mounts or even Glams account wide?
    Short A: No
    Longer A: There is NewGame+ if you want to play the story again, there are Fantasia if you want to change your looks and if you want to make a new char for RP get a level boost on the Mogstation

    Q: You announced that Male Viera will be added in 6.0. A lot of players are still waiting for additional hairstyles or the option to wear hats on Viera or Hrothgar, are these being worked on and potentially introduced with the addition of Male Viera?
    Short A: Not yet
    Long A: First off, the reason why Viera and Hrothgar can't wear hats right now is the following. We have very standardized specifications when it comes to head gear and the unique design with the long ears on Viera doesn't always meet these specifications. If we allowed every head gear piece, it would lead to clipping or other errors. The unique design of Viera and Hrothgar just prevents us from allowing these pieces, if we want to follow our specifications
    Nevertheless, we are aware of player feedback and we are definitely not the kind of dev team that ignores their players feedback. (Healers would like to know your location)
    There were a few things we said would be impossible to do, but we worked hard on it and made it possible in the end... I hope to have some good news soon.

    Isghard housing available in 6.1


    TLDR
    Reaper has 3 types of actions, scythe, avatar, joint scythe+avatar
    Its sounding like a burst dps
    Anime influence, bleach for one example

    No plans to make game more alt friendly

    Hats later for buns/lions, finish the genders first
    I understand the thing about some hats and helmets not working due to clipping reasons, even with ear holes in the case of Viera. If you use photoshop and try to overlay a lot of headgear items you can see what that means. Miqo'te is easier to work around that because their ears are more to the side, and Viera's is literally on top of the head.

    HOWEVER, there are some items that there's absolutely no excuse, such as the Calfskin cap (and a number of other similar items, like bandanas)... Just a hole would work. If they looked upon those smaller items, like caps, hoods and bandanas, it would open a huge variety.
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  9. #29
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    I think it's fair if items that you get only from doing contents in the game (esp from achievements) are limited to the character you use to obtain them. Otherwise, it can be acc wide.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Why this:


    can't follow the same logic as this?


    which would defnitely work for how Viera's ears are situated.
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