So, new hair coming out... Just...

[MicahZerrshia]

Let us be real it probably came down to new hair styles for females or the male counter part. We saw the one they choose. Now the question remains will you guys have to wait until female hrogth are added before you hair?

This. I think what many ppl don't realize is that even though SE is a multi-million dollar company, their resources are not infinite and while XIV is a profitable game, there are a lot of other, more important, pieces of this game as well as other games they need to put not only money but also development toward.

Is it crappy that they cannot deliver more hair styles? yes. Is it the end of the world that is costing them subs? Maybe a handful, but not likely even a remotely noticeable amount. They likely had to make a choice, and they chose to appease the ppl who have the 2 year old, thousands of replies long thread about wanting male viera over those who just want new hair. And they chose reasonably.

[Duskane]

Let us be real it probably came down to new hair styles for females or the male counter part. We saw the one they choose. Now the question remains will you guys have to wait until female hrogth are added before you hair?

be kinda funny how deep this rabbit hole can go
imagining the carnage of 4 years with no new hair styles
or they just get 1 1/2 hairstyles (since most viera hair are the same just some have less detail)

[Yandere-chan]

This. I think what many ppl don't realize is that even though SE is a multi-million dollar company, their resources are not infinite and while XIV is a profitable game, there are a lot of other, more important, pieces of this game as well as other games they need to put not only money but also development toward.

Is it crappy that they cannot deliver more hair styles? yes. Is it the end of the world that is costing them subs? Maybe a handful, but not likely even a remotely noticeable amount. They likely had to make a choice, and they chose to appease the ppl who have the 2 year old, thousands of replies long thread about wanting male viera over those who just want new hair. And they chose reasonably.

Multi-billion, to put it more accurately. While their resources are not infinite, the idea that they couldn't afford to hire temporary staff or outsource the task of merely adjusting hairs to fit the Viera head, something many hairs would need very little to be able to do which can be seen through the efforts of modders, seems rather preposterous to me. The idea that it was an either or scenario in regard to how much money they could afford to spend seems very unrealistic to me. Especially over a two year window, in which, this issue too has had constant feedback over from the beginning, just like male Viera. One or the other being personally more important to you doesn't change that for many others, their cares are with the female Viera's lack of hair and headgear support. And beyond that, and this does matter quite a bit, the lack of communication about it all speaks volumes to those who have taken up issue with it, especially given the amount of time and missed opportunities for Square to do otherwise. It's frustration and fuss that is more than well deserved at this point, and it will not cease until a resolution is met. Rather, it will only increase in time, and fairly so.

[EtherRose]

Because Square is greedy and racist against Viera, they won't be getting a variant. Like, seriously. Enough is enough. It's dumb that they literally exclude hair variants for an entire race in the game due to greed. It should be a standard to make variants for Viera for every added hair.

There has been more than ample time to accomplish that. Now, they are going to add Viera boys just to increase the number of people they will racially exclude new customization options to in the name of greed. And yeah, they have every right to exclude races of customization additions, just as we have every right to complain and incentivize them to choose to stop excluding races.

It should be unacceptable at this point. This is not a status quo we should tolerate any longer. We have clearly waited long enough. Square is screwing us over because they refuse to give FFXIV its proper budget to meet what should be a minimum. Clearly, they aren't going to change anything on their own w/o us making a fit over it. After this long, that can not be denied.

Imagine being so petty and self-centered/entitled about...hairstyles to the point you would call them..."Greedy" and "Racist", like really? I wish I could downvote you into the negatives but sadly this ain't reddit.

[Yencat]

They likely had to make a choice, and they chose to appease the ppl who have the 2 year old, thousands of replies long thread about wanting male viera over those who just want new hair. And they chose reasonably.

The only reason a mega thread wasn't started over this much sooner was because, as far as we knew, they didn't need convincing or coaxing to actually do it. They had already consented to adding hairstyles and faces/manes before the expansion even came out, so we had no reason to not believe they wouldn't at the time, or that it'd take this long. Because that'd be crazy right? Almost two years with not a single hairstyle added?

I'm not gonna say they choose poorly because in the end that's their decision to make, but like Yandere said, I find it hard to believe they had 0 resources in all this time to even adapt a single hairstyle or give a less vague update than "please wait a bit longer".

[EtherRose]

I'm not gonna say they choose poorly because in the end that's their decision to make, but like Yandere said, I find it hard to believe they had 0 resources in all this time to even adapt a single hairstyle or give a less vague update than "please wait a bit longer".

Because hairstyles aren't important right now. You think hairstyles take precedence over actual content? Endwalker is a lot bigger than ShadowBringers. Alongside the strict schedule they follow for patches/updates and with Covid-19 impacting their production you seriously think hairstyles are more important and should be top priority? You get it when you get it. I'm still waiting for my female Hrothgar which I'm glad is coming. But I'm not sitting here slandering SE like OP.

[Yencat]

Because hairstyles aren't important right now. You think hairstyles take precedence over actual content? Endwalker is a lot bigger than ShadowBringers. Alongside the strict schedule they follow for patches/updates and with Covid-19 impacting their production you seriously think hairstyles are more important and should be top priority? You get it when you get it. I'm still waiting for my female Hrothgar which I'm glad is coming. But I'm not sitting here slandering SE like OP.

I was wondering when you'd show up, didn't you say to wait for Fan Fest before whining? Make up your mind already.

[Duskane]

seems like you are just asking to get this thread closed or just banned.

[EtherRose]

I was wondering when you'd show up, didn't you say to wait for Fan Fest before whining? Make up your mind already.

In terms of them adding male Viera, which they did. If you can gladly quote what I specifically said about "Wait until Fan Fest before ""whining"" in terms of hairstyles, please do. I can't find it or seem to remember. I mainly stated male Viera.

[Yandere-chan]

First off, they never needed to add Viera. They added them because YOU wanted them. They are doing what they can and will for the community because you guys wanted it. And judging by your crappy attitude, they shouldn't have.

FFXIV is a product. They make things to make money. Viera wasn't a gift. It was an extension to their product to encourage the continued subscription and use of that product. That product extension is being racially excluded of features other similar product inclusions possess. This has been the state of being for a period of about two years now with essentially no communication to us about it, which is unacceptable for many customers that extension is relevant to. Square Enix isn't your dad. It's a corporation that exists to elicit profit from customers. This forum exists in part for the purpose of customers complaining about the product they have paid / are paying for. If you don't like that, you don't have to participate, but we use the forum for its intended purpose regardless. With all due respect, try not to throw rocks from a glass house in regard to having a "crappy attitude."