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    Renik's Avatar
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    Ren'li Heise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i think if they considered the lore when creating them, they will be around the same height (if they follow the current dimorphism probably a little taller, if they want something a bit different maybe a little smaller) but nothing too big of a difference.
    Exactly, also because how they are part human and part rabbit, in some rabbit species on average females are a bit bigger, and for us on average males are a bit bigger, I think having them being the exact same height makes a lot of sense, this is all just speculation tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i just hope people will not freak out either way when they get released because for example many people (mostly twitter) seem to be way to certain about them being way smaller than their female counterpart. i just have female viera flashbacks.

    i don‘t care either way, i would love them to be around the same height, would be a bummer if they are miqo male tall or even smaller. would i play them anyways? probably yes, i‘ve just waited way too long for them would probably waste a ton of money buying phantasias switching back and forth - because yeah... headgear and hairstyles.
    This is what is fear, there's a lot of misinformation about lore, and false "facts" about their height originating mostly on twitter.

    I will also play them anyway but I really hope they are at least as tall as the females, as a fan of FFTA and FFTA2 I always thought Viera were super cool and always wondered how males would look. I'm just very excited to finaly play one XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    This is what is fear, there's a lot of misinformation about lore, and false "facts" about their height originating mostly on twitter.
    absolutely! i‘ve read some really strange things like the males are hidden and dominated by the females, or just much weaker and something along these lines to make it seem plausible they are this small. even IF the males are really drastically smaller, their lore doesn‘t change. they still are the primary defenders of the forest and savage killer buns. their lives are rather harsh and many young male vieras don‘t even make it in the end.

    and i also find it questionable why a smaller viera equals weaker? cloud is also rather slim but is a killermachine nontheless - after all this is a fantasy game. but yeah, we are talking here about twitter- everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    absolutely! i‘ve read some really strange things like the males are hidden and dominated by the females, or just much weaker and something along these lines to make it seem plausible they are this small. even IF the males are really drastically smaller, their lore doesn‘t change. they still are the primary defenders of the forest and savage killer buns. their lives are rather harsh and many young male vieras don‘t even make it in the end.

    and i also find it questionable why a smaller viera equals weaker? cloud is also rather slim but is a killermachine nontheless - after all this is a fantasy game. but yeah, we are talking here about twitter- everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
    They just want moon miqotes with bunny ears, it baffles me that people cba to learn the lore of a race they're interested in.
    I literally saw someone's viera OC on there who was taught by her father to hunt... like ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    They just want moon miqotes with bunny ears, it baffles me that people cba to learn the lore of a race they're interested in.
    I literally saw someone's viera OC on there who was taught by her father to hunt... like ???
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
    It would have to exist as an outlier.

    In what established viera lore we have... The females and males live entirely separate until it's mating time, and then they part ways again. When males reach adulthood, they are taken as wards by the older males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    It would have to exist as an outlier.

    In what established viera lore we have... The females and males live entirely separate until it's mating time, and then they part ways again. When males reach adulthood, they are taken as wards by the older males.
    Yeah. Outlier is kind of the name of the game for OCs, is what I’m saying.

    Even so, I could think of situations in which “my father taught me to hunt” could be true for a viera OC while keeping with lore. It could be an adoptive situation in which the viera in question was raised by a different race entirely and learned it from them. How long does mating time last? Do the male viera in question not speak to anyone, mate, grab the boys, and rush off into the night? Do they mate with the same people every time, or just whoever? A mix? Do they not know who their children are? Do they not spend time with them when they do come back for mating season? Are viera children completely barred from knowing or ever seeing their fathers? Could the OC be trans?

    This is getting off topic, but like if you’re gonna take a pot shot at someone’s OC as an example of “cba to learn lore” , it’s probably important to understand the nature of OCs and that the lore is intentionally vague to allow for outliers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Do they not spend time with them when they do come back for mating season? Are viera children completely barred from knowing or ever seeing their fathers? Could the OC be trans?
    they tell their kids they go to the store to buy cigs and milk
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 05-25-2021 at 02:58 AM.

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    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
    Because you cannot be raised in golmore and also raised by your father, it's just lore.
    Males take away other males and then they all just go on their separate ways.
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    Last edited by HollowedDoll; 05-25-2021 at 04:26 AM.

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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    The WoL is always the exception to lore. It’s lore that viera never leave the Greenwood too. Maybe the WoL as a child ran away and stayed with their dad. Maybe the dad decided to care for his child rather than see her die. Maybe that’s what led her to become the WoL and travel the world. I think it’s ok to let people be creative and use their imagination. It doesn’t harm anything in a game where people run around in cars and chicken suits.
    They most likely won't go too deep or detail about the background of male Viera PC.
    Like the other races, the PC's background is kept somewhat vague so that players can make their own HC about the details of their characters background.
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