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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Honestly, this is the reason people should support the slider, is not there only to make monster tall bunnies, but also short ones, doesn't matter slightly taller or shorter, I doubt they will go down to 170cm, just like I doubt the will go up to 210cm.

    People can keep lying themselves with fraudulent comparisons and baseless hopes, but anyone that watched the trailer will realize that they don't look short, and based on some accurate comparisons they don't seem monster tall either.
    i think if they considered the lore when creating them, they will be around the same height (if they follow the current dimorphism probably a little taller, if they want something a bit different maybe a little smaller) but nothing too big of a difference.
    i just hope people will not freak out either way when they get released because for example many people (mostly twitter) seem to be way to certain about them being way smaller than their female counterpart. i just have female viera flashbacks.

    i don‘t care either way, i would love them to be around the same height, would be a bummer if they are miqo male tall or even smaller. would i play them anyways? probably yes, i‘ve just waited way too long for them would probably waste a ton of money buying phantasias switching back and forth - because yeah... headgear and hairstyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i think if they considered the lore when creating them, they will be around the same height (if they follow the current dimorphism probably a little taller, if they want something a bit different maybe a little smaller) but nothing too big of a difference.
    Exactly, also because how they are part human and part rabbit, in some rabbit species on average females are a bit bigger, and for us on average males are a bit bigger, I think having them being the exact same height makes a lot of sense, this is all just speculation tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    i just hope people will not freak out either way when they get released because for example many people (mostly twitter) seem to be way to certain about them being way smaller than their female counterpart. i just have female viera flashbacks.

    i don‘t care either way, i would love them to be around the same height, would be a bummer if they are miqo male tall or even smaller. would i play them anyways? probably yes, i‘ve just waited way too long for them would probably waste a ton of money buying phantasias switching back and forth - because yeah... headgear and hairstyles.
    This is what is fear, there's a lot of misinformation about lore, and false "facts" about their height originating mostly on twitter.

    I will also play them anyway but I really hope they are at least as tall as the females, as a fan of FFTA and FFTA2 I always thought Viera were super cool and always wondered how males would look. I'm just very excited to finaly play one XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    This is what is fear, there's a lot of misinformation about lore, and false "facts" about their height originating mostly on twitter.
    absolutely! i‘ve read some really strange things like the males are hidden and dominated by the females, or just much weaker and something along these lines to make it seem plausible they are this small. even IF the males are really drastically smaller, their lore doesn‘t change. they still are the primary defenders of the forest and savage killer buns. their lives are rather harsh and many young male vieras don‘t even make it in the end.

    and i also find it questionable why a smaller viera equals weaker? cloud is also rather slim but is a killermachine nontheless - after all this is a fantasy game. but yeah, we are talking here about twitter- everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    absolutely! i‘ve read some really strange things like the males are hidden and dominated by the females, or just much weaker and something along these lines to make it seem plausible they are this small. even IF the males are really drastically smaller, their lore doesn‘t change. they still are the primary defenders of the forest and savage killer buns. their lives are rather harsh and many young male vieras don‘t even make it in the end.

    and i also find it questionable why a smaller viera equals weaker? cloud is also rather slim but is a killermachine nontheless - after all this is a fantasy game. but yeah, we are talking here about twitter- everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
    They just want moon miqotes with bunny ears, it baffles me that people cba to learn the lore of a race they're interested in.
    I literally saw someone's viera OC on there who was taught by her father to hunt... like ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    They just want moon miqotes with bunny ears, it baffles me that people cba to learn the lore of a race they're interested in.
    I literally saw someone's viera OC on there who was taught by her father to hunt... like ???
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
    It would have to exist as an outlier.

    In what established viera lore we have... The females and males live entirely separate until it's mating time, and then they part ways again. When males reach adulthood, they are taken as wards by the older males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    It would have to exist as an outlier.

    In what established viera lore we have... The females and males live entirely separate until it's mating time, and then they part ways again. When males reach adulthood, they are taken as wards by the older males.
    Yeah. Outlier is kind of the name of the game for OCs, is what I’m saying.

    Even so, I could think of situations in which “my father taught me to hunt” could be true for a viera OC while keeping with lore. It could be an adoptive situation in which the viera in question was raised by a different race entirely and learned it from them. How long does mating time last? Do the male viera in question not speak to anyone, mate, grab the boys, and rush off into the night? Do they mate with the same people every time, or just whoever? A mix? Do they not know who their children are? Do they not spend time with them when they do come back for mating season? Are viera children completely barred from knowing or ever seeing their fathers? Could the OC be trans?

    This is getting off topic, but like if you’re gonna take a pot shot at someone’s OC as an example of “cba to learn lore” , it’s probably important to understand the nature of OCs and that the lore is intentionally vague to allow for outliers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Why is this baffling? The races have intentionally pretty vague lore, it’s unsurprising that people wouldn’t care much about it especially in regards to their OCs. Even with the example you used I could think of a couple reasons off the top of my head how that situation could fit into the little lore we have.
    Because you cannot be raised in golmore and also raised by your father, it's just lore.
    Males take away other males and then they all just go on their separate ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Because you cannot be raised in golmore and also raised by your father, it's just lore.
    Males take away other males and then they all just go on their separate ways.
    Sure you can. Again, this speaks more to your lack of imagination than to the person you’re scoffing at for not caring about lore. I don’t RP, I don’t have OCs, and I don’t really write. But even so, it’s not hard to think of a myriad of ways this could possibly happen, even if she were raised in Golmore. People have all sorts of culture norms and rules that individuals deviate from all of the time.
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