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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Edit. Checked xiv analysis but again that doesnt give you anything to measure against. though it point out a couple of rotational balls ups (something to consider at least) but it still doesnt give you a point of reference in terms of how you measure up against a potential.. so agian i could be doing 70% of my potential for my current ilevel or 95% you just don't know.
    You measure it against a high parse. Compare your xiva to the xiva result for a top SAM. Remember xiva isn't about dps.

    Let's say for example you had 85% uptime, missed 3 CD's and 4 rotational errors, but a 95+ percentile had 99% uptime, only missed 1 CD and no rotational errors, then you know you have room to improve and exactly what you need to work on. In particular Uptime is extremely important for dps.

    However, if your xivanalysis result looked similar to the result of a 95%+ log, then you know it's purely a gear issue. For a 513 it sounds like you're doing decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatia View Post
    The language used by pro-parsers in this thread is pretty much self-explanatory and self-evident. Calling people "clowns", "softies", "baddies" and the like for disagreeing, telling them to just "get over it" in regards to extreme verbal abuse (victim blaming much?).
    Those few examples do not represent pro-parsers as a whole, but fair point, there's no need for name calling over disagreement on either side. It doesn't help anyone's case.

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    Speaking of name calling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You measure it against a high parse. Compare your xiva to the xiva result for a top SAM. Remember xiva isn't about dps.

    Let's say for example you had 85% uptime, missed 3 CD's and 4 rotational errors, but a 95+ percentile had 99% uptime, only missed 1 CD and no rotational errors, then you know you have room to improve and exactly what you need to work on. In particular Uptime is extremely important for dps.

    However, if your xivanalysis result looked similar to the result of a 95%+ log, then you know it's purely a gear issue.
    This is my issue with making parses in the game where casuals could see them. Do you think a casual that screws their rotation or has a gear issue could go this in depth to provide any useful info to a dev?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    This is my issue with making parses in the game where casuals could see them. Do you think a casual that screws their rotation or has a gear issue could go this in depth to provide any useful info to a dev?
    Yep, and this is why throwing numbers at a casual player isn't going to do anything positive. If they're a casual player, they're not going to be comparing parses to top players. They're not looking to provide comprehensive reports to the devs. The tools to parse and track and compare already exist, but casual players don't use them and wouldn't use them just because they'd be built into the game. It's part of, well, having a more casual approach to the game.

    The game needs better teaching tools and could use a general instructional performance assessment, but a parser isn't that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    You measure it against a high parse. Compare your xiva to the xiva result for a top SAM. Remember xiva isn't about dps.

    Let's say for example you had 85% uptime, missed 3 CD's and 4 rotational errors, but a 95+ percentile had 99% uptime, only missed 1 CD and no rotational errors, then you know you have room to improve and exactly what you need to work on. In particular Uptime is extremely important for dps.

    However, if your xivanalysis result looked similar to the result of a 95%+ log, then you know it's purely a gear issue. For a 513 it sounds like you're doing decent.
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    Interesting. seesm like i'll have to take a deeper look into it.the quick comparison i did looked pretty similar. they had just over 2% more uptime than me and an improved higabana uptime. mine can drop off if i mis time the phase transitions or jumps. they seemed like the biggest differences. it did also flag i missed a coupe of kaiten somewhere but that might be latency or something. ive noticed a small delay when jumping across platforms where your buttons dont always register. but if thats as big as the differences get then i must be doing pretty well.

    however it still indicates a 39th percentile on logs which i would still consider to be an innacurate representation of my skill.a lot of people would look at that and be very quickto pass a negative judgement.
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    If your gear is horrifically out of date, specifically your weapon (like me). Doesn't really matter how good you do on those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    however it still indicates a 39th percentile on logs which i would still consider to be an innacurate representation of my skill.a lot of people would look at that and be very quickto pass a negative judgement.
    Anyone who judges an EX log based on a quick glance at dps isn't worth listening to. You're right indeed that the standalone 39th percentile number is a poor representation of ability, but the additional analysis tools a parse enables are a great way to evaluate personal performance (which is the best use for logs). For Diamond EX, make sure you try to jump just as you start your GCD to minimize uptime loss. Kaiten and Higan uptime can easily be polished, but sounds like you're going well.
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