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[SturmChurro]

Oh my God, Sturm. Clearly they're 4000 year old guardian spirits of the wood, duh!

Well, I am glad Yoshida stopped any talk of races like that being included into the game, 4000 year old or not!

[KizuyaKatogami]

Meanwhile Eden Ryne over here wearing what she is...

[Kolsykol]

Aren't Lyn literally like 8 year olds with animal ears?

The outfits that they are allowed to wear in B&S are quite... distasteful. (I just googled them)

Depends on how you perceive them I guess, I kinda view them more as cute while the Elin in Tera are a lot more blatant.
I mean in FFXIV the Lalafell can wear a lot skimpier things too tbh, if you showed someone at work a picture of a Lalafell wearing some of the skimpy gear or like the 2B armor you don't think they'd look at them pretty much the same?
It's kinda the same situation where they make most gear for the other races then the Lyn ( and Lalafell ) get it too and it's kinda perceived differently.

I don't necessarily disagree tho because I used to play Blade and Soul and just like how there's people clearly lewding Lalafell's there were people clearly lewding Lyn's.
But I still felt like it was the minority based on what I remember and the stated intent of the devs wasn't that.
I can't find it atm but I remember they posted concept art of them before and they were a lot more like monsters, they still had the same overall idea of being small and with animal ears but they were more demonic and evil looking.
Then they simply took that design and made it cute to appeal to women ( so they said at least ).

If you look at the Elin in Tera they look a lot more obviously designed to look underage, the Lyn I can kinda buy ( in most cases ) as just being more like a short animal hybrid race.
Even moreso since there's both male and female Lyn, while with the Elin there's only female.

Meanwhile Eden Ryne over here wearing what she is...

I mean basically this too.
I love Gaia's outfit but it's still worth remembering that she's a kid too which I don't like....

Oh my God, Sturm. Clearly they're 4000 year old guardian spirits of the wood, duh!

I hope you're not implying that's what I am saying, because I ain't that stupid or making that argument.
Like I said I agree that there are people who lewd the Lyn, what I am saying is simply that I don't think that it was the intent behind them and based on my experience playing Blade and Soul I didn't feel like it was the case.

I actually did try Tera for a while too and the Elin were like I said far more blatant.

Edit: I found two screenshots from a Stream they showed some early concepts on, they even played around with the idea that they'd actually be animals fully but I mean there's obvious problems with that ( as a Viera we should know ).

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bl...20160708000536

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bl...20160708001125

Do you think that the early concept art for the Elin looked like this?

[Yencat]

Depends on how you perceive them I guess, I kinda view them more as cute while the Elin in Tera are a lot more blatant.
I mean in FFXIV the Lalafell can wear a lot skimpier things too tbh, if you showed someone at work a picture of a Lalafell wearing some of the skimpy gear or like the 2B armor you don't think they'd look at them pretty much the same?
It's kinda the same situation where they make most gear for the other races then the Lyn ( and Lalafell ) get it too and it's kinda perceived differently.

I don't necessarily disagree tho because I used to play Blade and Soul and just like how there's people clearly lewding Lalafell's there were people clearly lewding Lyn's.
But I still felt like it was the minority based on what I remember and the stated intent of the devs wasn't that.
I can't find it atm but I remember they posted concept art of them before and they were a lot more like monsters, they still had the same overall idea of being small and with animal ears but they were more demonic and evil looking.
Then they simply took that design and made it cute to appeal to women ( so they said at least ).

If you look at the Elin in Tera they look a lot more obviously designed to look underage, the Lyn I can kinda buy ( in most cases ) as just being more like a short animal hybrid race.
Even moreso since there's both male and female Lyn, while with the Elin there's only female.

Both Bluehole Studio and NCSOFT lost any plausible deniability that these were meant to be cute anime races when they started releasing lingerie and bikinis that magically give them breasts though.

At that point it's not just the community lewding them but the devs themselves.

[SturmChurro]

I don't necessarily disagree tho because I used to play Blade and Soul and just like how there's people clearly lewding Lalafell's there were people clearly lewding Lyn's.
But I still felt like it was the minority based on what I remember and the stated intent of the devs wasn't that.
I can't find it atm but I remember they posted concept art of them before and they were a lot more like monsters, they still had the same overall idea of being small and with animal ears but they were more demonic and evil looking.
Then they simply took that design and made it cute to appeal to women ( so they said at least ).

If you look at the Elin in Tera they look a lot more obviously designed to look underage, the Lyn I can kinda buy ( in most cases ) as just being more like a short animal hybrid race.
Even moreso since there's both male and female Lyn, while with the Elin there's only female.

Yeah, I don't know about that. When the devs are selling what amounts to lingerie for these characters that look like children on the cash shop.. I kind of start doubting that. I think they know exactly what they were doing..

[Yencat]

I hope you're not implying that's what I am saying, because I ain't that stupid or making that argument.
Like I said I agree that there are people who lewd the Lyn, what I am saying is simply that I don't think that it was the intent behind them and based on my experience playing Blade and Soul I didn't feel like it was the case.

I actually did try Tera for a while too and the Elin were like I said far more blatant.

Can't edit on phone, but it wasn't aimed at you at all, no

[Senn]

Both Bluehole Studio and NCSOFT lost any plausible deniability that these were meant to be cute anime races when they started releasing lingerie and bikinis that magically give them breasts though.

At that point it's not just the community lewding them but the devs themselves.

Wow, I didn't know that. I played bns a long time ago and it wasn't like that when I was playing.

[Kolsykol]

Both Bluehole Studio and NCSOFT lost any plausible deniability that these were meant to be cute anime races when they started releasing lingerie and bikinis that magically give them breasts though.

At that point it's not just the community lewding them but the devs themselves.

I dunno about magically gives them breasts, I can't find anything like that.
Maybe the devs played into that a bit I could agree with that, but a lot of the costumes are also like this:
I don't think that's too bad of a compromise and I'd say that's more along the lines of cute rather than sexy ( it could be argued, but I really don't think it's comparable at all to the Elin in Tera. )

It sorta becomes a question of whether they want or can put in the resources in more extreme cases tho.
And if they shut Lyn players out from content the players get mad.
I mean remember we're both playing Viera, we know about those dev struggles lol.

To some extent maybe I am giving the devs too much benefit of the doubt again I probably would agree that they might play into the people lewding them too for money.
But I also wouldn't go hardcore all in on just condemning them altogether and say that they're like 110% intentionally being all like '' yeah lets milk these questionable people ''.
I do believe them when they said that the intent was for them to be cute, but then maybe things moved in another direction at times to make money if that makes sense.

My overall point tho was that I don't think they're the same as Elin, I do think that Elin just goes hardcore in on that.
While the Lyn I don't think that they do even if you can find examples.

Wow, I didn't know that. I played bns a long time ago and it wasn't like that when I was playing.

I can't remember it either, it was a long time ago since I played tho.

But I mean with the Lyn at least I feel as if I can post pics of them in most cases ( some I'd really hesitate tho ).
But with the Elin I basically feel as if I can't post any.

[Yencat]

I dunno about magically gives them breasts, I can't find anything like that.
Maybe the devs played into that a bit I could agree with that, but a lot of the costumes are also like this:
I don't think that's too bad of a compromise and I'd say that's more along the lines of cute rather than sexy ( it could be argued, but I really don't think it's comparable at all to the Elin in Tera. )

It sorta becomes a question of whether they want or can put in the resources in more extreme cases tho.
And if they shut Lyn players out from content the players get mad.
I mean remember we're both playing Viera, we know about those dev struggles lol.

To some extent maybe I am giving the devs too much benefit of the doubt again I probably would agree that they might play into the people lewding them too for money.
But I also wouldn't go hardcore all in on just condemning them altogether and say that they're like 110% intentionally being all like '' yeah lets milk these questionable people ''.
I do believe them when they said that the intent was for them to be cute, but then maybe things moved in another direction at times to make money if that makes sense.

My overall point tho was that I don't think they're the same as Elin, I do think that Elin just goes hardcore in on that.
While the Lyn I don't think that they do even if you can find examples.




I can't remember it either, it was a long time ago since I played tho.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bladeands...21865913716736

That's just one I specifically remembered because they sold 2 versions of it, 1 with breasts and 1 without. Guess which was the most coveted?

But Bluehole was a lot worse with the chest and thigh sliders and lingerie yes lol

[Fukuro]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bladeands...21865913716736

That's just one I specifically remembered because they sold 2 versions of it, 1 with breasts and 1 without. Guess which was the most coveted?

But Bluehole was a lot worse with the chest and thigh sliders and lingerie yes lol

didn‘t know that, actually disgusting ngl