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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Female Viera are short when placed on the male side of height chart.
    Male Viera is a male, we want him to be able to reach the tall side of the male spectrum. As well as the average/short side of the spectrum.

    Female Viera on the male side falls on the short side.


    Male Viera being tall has nothing to do with female Viera, it has everything to do with the tall options we have in the game.
    Since when was 6ft Average Height?
    Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
    Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Since when was 6ft Average Height?
    Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
    Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.
    Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
    female Viera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
    female Viera
    So you're saying the Average Height in Eorzea is 6ft? Which answers that specific question I asked in my last post.
    Is this based on something? Or is this just what you believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It seems like a lot of people’s arguments here for them being shorter is just their weird headcanon.
    Speaking for Myself, Im just asking Why can't they be shorter then the Females?
    It seems the rebuttals are mostly "I dont like it" or "It makes them Niche" and still the question is...why is that a bad thing?
    If you dont like it fine, but it sounds like more there is an actual issue with it like it kills Male Viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So you're saying the Average Height in Eorzea is 6ft? Which answers that specific question I asked in my last post.
    Is this based on something? Or is this just what you believe?
    The average gets skewed because of Lalafel. But this is not about the average, this is about the tall and the short side of the spectrum. The topic at hand is providing a height slider that is similar to female Roegadyn's which would cover the tall side of the male height options. So that we have a tall option that isn't world of warcraft (roe, hrothgar, au ra).

    Speaking for Myself, Im just asking Why can't they be shorter then the Females?
    It seems the rebuttals are mostly "I dont like it" or "It makes them Niche" and still the question is...why is that a bad thing?
    If you dont like it fine, but it sounds like more there is an actual issue with it like it kills Male Viera.
    This is not about female Viera; and the lore excuse was what many used to rationalize why male Viera shouldn't be included.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    the designers already made the Model, they made the available customization, and they fit thousands of gear to it. They made the Gender of the Race how they envisioned and decided on.



    Ill 2nd this.
    With 6 months to go and no benchmark I'd argue they're far from done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    The average gets skewed because of Lalafel. But this is not about the average, this is about the tall and the short side of the spectrum. The topic at hand is providing a height slider that is similar to female Roegadyn's which would cover the tall side of the male height options. So that we have a tall option that isn't world of warcraft (roe, hrothgar, au ra).

    With 6 months to go and no benchmark I'd argue they're far from done.
    Your topic isn't difficult to understand (Although placing "Critical" in your title is...weird.)
    But, the devs & designers already made them, so they will have what they have. Changing it after completion is a waste of time honestly. Those 6 months are better spent doing touchups to make sure the model That Is Complete will render and function Globally on the servers, look its best, and even dare I say...could be spent making hairstyles and/or hats more accessible and available. Not to mention that Benchmark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    This is not about female Viera; and the lore excuse was what many used to rationalize why male Viera shouldn't be included.
    Lore isn't remotely part of the conversation. The conversation is about Height.
    And all I asked, is "Why Can't Male Viera be Smaller then Female Viera?"
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    If they are around the height of female viera (a tiny littler smaller, same height or a tiny little higher) i‘d be pretty smitten with them!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Lore isn't remotely part of the conversation. The conversation is about Height.
    And all I asked, is "Why Can't Male Viera be Smaller then Female Viera?"
    Well i‘ve read some comments before and some people in general wish the males to be between au ra and elezen meaning among the taller races. female viera are not as tall as these two male races - that‘s why many want the males to be taller, not because some sort of complex. (regarless of female viera)
    i guess it‘s the same reason some would suggest hrothgar to be the race with the opposite dimorphism, since m. hrothgar are already tall.

    personally i wouldn‘t like it if they were miqo‘te height or how many on twitter suggest even smaller than miqo‘te min height. ideally for me i‘d wish them to be around the same height as the females, and it seems to be the case which makes me happy! but in the end it‘s just my opinion and nothing is confirmed for sure!
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    Last edited by Fukuro; 05-20-2021 at 04:14 PM. Reason: english grammar pretty bad - not native speaker :(