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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Shorter then the Females = Childlike?.....wha....?
    It's what some people are pushing for. I suppose it was wrong of me to assume you were aware of that, though - I did as much because you were a frequent participant in the very same debates over in the main thread devoted to the topic of male viera. Though naturally things can slip one's mind which is perfectly understandable.

    Either way, I'm firmly in the camp of more options for classically handsome male characters that are conventionally attractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's what some people are pushing for. I suppose it was wrong of me to assume you were aware of that, though - I did as much because you were a frequent participant in the very same debates over in the main thread devoted to the topic of male viera. Though naturally things can slip one's mind which is perfectly understandable.
    But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
    We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
    We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.
    Fully agreed. And short does not translate into "not handsome."
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Besides the lore they’ve already established and Yoshi P already confirming their height range?
    Even if the min/max height of male viera was a few centimeters shorter than the females, they would still be tall. This doesn't break lore. And while the model is completed and the height has been set already by the graphics team, none of us know what it is. They could be a little shorter than the females, maybe not. It's fine either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    But....how does being shorter then the females mean they are childlike?...
    We're on the subject of Height here my-man, not aesthetics.
    Also agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie_Lo View Post
    Fully agreed. And short does not translate into "not handsome."
    And this.
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    Last edited by Senn; 05-20-2021 at 01:48 PM.

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    Female Viera are short when placed on the male side of height chart.
    Male Viera is a male, we want him to be able to reach the tall side of the male spectrum. As well as the average/short side of the spectrum.

    Female Viera on the male side falls on the short side.


    Male Viera being tall has nothing to do with female Viera, it has everything to do with the tall options we have in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Female Viera are short when placed on the male side of height chart.
    Male Viera is a male, we want him to be able to reach the tall side of the male spectrum. As well as the average/short side of the spectrum.

    Female Viera on the male side falls on the short side.


    Male Viera being tall has nothing to do with female Viera, it has everything to do with the tall options we have in the game.
    Since when was 6ft Average Height?
    Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
    Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Since when was 6ft Average Height?
    Who is gonna take this picture seriously? The Average Height is about 5'5 or maybe 5'9. Or is this the Average Height in Eorzea?
    Also, that picture of the Veria is smooshed in, it can obscure what the height truly is.
    Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
    female Viera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Average height in real life does not translate the average height in FFXIV. If your height stance has to do with real life then you're on a slippery slope where I would then use the scientific fact that most real life males are taller than their female counterparts no matter the race, on average, so that should be reflected here as well.
    female Viera
    So you're saying the Average Height in Eorzea is 6ft? Which answers that specific question I asked in my last post.
    Is this based on something? Or is this just what you believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It seems like a lot of people’s arguments here for them being shorter is just their weird headcanon.
    Speaking for Myself, Im just asking Why can't they be shorter then the Females?
    It seems the rebuttals are mostly "I dont like it" or "It makes them Niche" and still the question is...why is that a bad thing?
    If you dont like it fine, but it sounds like more there is an actual issue with it like it kills Male Viera.
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    Last edited by Zanarkand-Ronso; 05-20-2021 at 02:27 PM.