Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
People generally don't have a problem with kicking someone or getting kicked if it's agreed by the majority that they are not only a detriment but not worth any time investment at all or minor inconvenience.

"I don't use jobstones" "ok well that's just going to make this take way more time than any of us are willing to invest" (in so many words, probably something more like "I don't wanna" "k well.. bye".)

You however have presented playing off others tendencies and kicking at relatively negligible issues. Combining your particular take into what many might consider an abuse of the system for exceedingly selfish reasons. There's a large difference in many peoples minds between mutually agreeing to kick someone who is an obvious detriment to all and initiating a kick on minor things that bother you and taking advantage of the fact your friends in the party will go along with it as well as randoms who don't actually pay attention and either accidentally or dismissively agree to kick. Especially on a "contract" such as a DF party where you agreed to "help" others for a reward and are then cherry picking who you want to help.
The thing what one considers negligible may not be to another. As stated my stance is fairly simple if the majority of those able to vote to remove the player then the vote is valid. The reason behind it is moot in my opinion because the reason becomes a subjective standard. Though our vote kick system is far from perfect and some changes could be made but within the current system that is the only objective metric we have.

I get people being agaisnt my reasoning for the kick, and they can view me as an villain or an ass. Though I do not think the action itself is wrong or should be viewed as such. I do think it should be encouraged.

The other thing I am not a huge fan of implicit contracts. Which is what end stance boils down to regarding DF is an agreement to help others. Granted I have never read the text for the duty finder so it could not be implicit and just ignorance on my part. Though that creates other issues I have that would further derail the thread.