Final Fantasy XIV doesn't actually have that good of a story

[CKNovel]

I definitely felt a lot of tension when playing through FF13.

Ah yes, I remember the great tension of Sazh big scene right after he looked so happy in his kart.
XIII has a false sense of tension, I can't remember a scene where you actually need to rush, always felt like walking was enough. Other time, simply felt like there was no danger.

Cyberpunk wasn't a great game, but the story and character writing was good. It has flaws, character writing ain't one.
FF7R IS a good game that I recommend, while I do agree Nomura really made a massive mistake that ruined the finale, it doesn't invalidate the rest of the game.

[_Koneko_]

nice bait thread i give it a 3 out of 10

[VelKallor]

but they are not as thought-provoking as SOMA.

*Adds that to play soon list*

[ZedxKayn]

Really makes me roll my eyes that people think a critical opinion of the greatest story ever = bait, a troll, or MPK lmao

Newsflash: people who don't share your opinion aren't here to troll and it's very rude to dismiss them as bait. Gives the GCBTW the meaning it has.

[TaleraRistain]

Anyway, I think the "lack of urgency" is just how RPGs have always operated. The best time to clear all the sidequests and 100% the game is right when the villain has made their move and the world is teetering on the brink of oblivion, because that's when you've got your airship and gear from the penultimate dungeon.

Exactly. There may be others, but the only game I can remember that actually codified the sense of urgency was Mass Effect 2 if you went and did side things after a certain story point. That game actively punished you for what RPGs had taught you to do for decades.

[HollowedDoll]

FFXIV is capable of making you feel sad, angry, and horrified, because the writing isn't shit.

[_Koneko_]

Exactly. There may be others, but the only game I can remember that actually codified the sense of urgency was Mass Effect 2 if you went and did side things after a certain story point. That game actively punished you for what RPGs had taught you to do for decades.

and then came 3 and you realize nothing you did mattered :P

[LaughingBanana]

The Last of Us 2 is capable of making you feel sad, angry, and horrified because the game is designed in a very immersive manner. FF14 makes you read the dialogues which isn't as immersive as modern story games.

And are you saying that FFXIV is incapable of inflicting those emotions to its players? Because I would greatly disagree with you if that is the implication that you're trying to make. I would say that FFXIV has, in many occasions, managed to induce such emotions from me in a far, far stronger manner than many games I have played in my entire gaming career. The fact that it has managed to do so despite "not designed in a very immersive manner" is, for me, making it a greater achievement than games like The Last of Us 2.

[Ammokkx]

Really makes me roll my eyes that people think a critical opinion of the greatest story ever = bait, a troll, or MPK lmao

Newsflash: people who don't share your opinion aren't here to troll and it's very rude to dismiss them as bait. Gives the GCBTW the meaning it has.

I don't trust any account who's first post is on a controversial topic, no matter how well-worded that first post is.

If they actually bothered to interact with the forum board before this point and then made the thread, and those interactions beforehand weren't bait, then I'd give them the time of day.

[MrPresident]

Shadowbringers story was the best FF story in over a decade.