Final Fantasy XIV doesn't actually have that good of a story

[tatatatatata]

There being lots of filler is a valid point, though they've cut back on it quite a bit post-ARR (And even pruned a lot of it from ARR itself) and largely shoved the menial tasks into optional quests. It being a flaw inherent to the MMO genre is a valid point, though.

I've regularly felt emotionally invested in things regardless of there being spoken dialogue or not. Story is not the game's sole or even primary focus, so I wouldn't expect it to be as good as some others in that regard in the first place.

The whole "no sense of urgency" thing is present in virtually all of the other FF games and several others outside of the series, and is honestly almost omni-present in games that are not completely linear from beginning to end. Railroading the player into plot progression in anything other then a strictly story-driven game that has no grinding whatsoever is generally a bad idea.

Those things said, I still have personally found the story to be one of the most enjoyable in the franchise due to all the nuance and nigh-constant sense of intrigue due to all the mysteries present in the world and its cultures that have gradually unraveled as time has gone on. I'd agree it's probably not one of the best stories in gaming as a whole, though.

This is why I enjoyed the stories in linear games the most. FF13 definitely created a great sense of urgency until you reach Gran Pulse because of its linear nature. The story isn't the best, but I definitely felt a lot of tension when playing through FF13. I do agree the lore in FF14 is probably one of the best in the franchise though.

[CKNovel]

I definitely felt a lot of tension when playing through FF13.

Ah yes, I remember the great tension of Sazh big scene right after he looked so happy in his kart.
XIII has a false sense of tension, I can't remember a scene where you actually need to rush, always felt like walking was enough. Other time, simply felt like there was no danger.

Cyberpunk wasn't a great game, but the story and character writing was good. It has flaws, character writing ain't one.
FF7R IS a good game that I recommend, while I do agree Nomura really made a massive mistake that ruined the finale, it doesn't invalidate the rest of the game.

[Wolven_Essence]

There being lots of filler is a valid point, though they've cut back on it quite a bit post-ARR (And even pruned a lot of it from ARR itself) and largely shoved the menial tasks into optional quests. It being a flaw inherent to the MMO genre is a valid point, though.

I've regularly felt emotionally invested in things regardless of there being spoken dialogue or not. Story is not the game's sole or even primary focus, so I wouldn't expect it to be as good as some others in that regard in the first place.

The whole "no sense of urgency" thing is present in virtually all of the other FF games and several others outside of the series, and is honestly almost omni-present in games that are not completely linear from beginning to end. Railroading the player into plot progression in anything other then a strictly story-driven game that has no grinding whatsoever is generally a bad idea.

Those things said, I still have personally found the story to be one of the most enjoyable in the franchise due to all the nuance and nigh-constant sense of intrigue due to all the mysteries present in the world and its cultures that have gradually unraveled as time has gone on. I'd agree it's probably not one of the best stories in gaming as a whole, though.

Honestly the only games where there is any sense of urgency at all are completely linear games with little to no exploration. The only times I have ever felt any urgency is at the very end of a game when it is going into that very last part leading up to that final confrontation.

[Wavaryen]

I might be crazy but I like the so called filler. I think it builds world and your own personal character development.

Some of your points, eh..I still have scars from HW that make me hold my breath when things get crazy.



Mind you it is all personal taste. I dislike final fantasy 7 story, but love final fantasy 4 and 8.

[TaleraRistain]

If you're upset at doing something mundane like harvesting vegetables, methinks you haven't played many JRPGs.

[CKNovel]

Is this a troll account?
MPK second account?

When was the last time you read a book?
There's no voice acting in books, no images either, yet a good writer can immerse you in the story.

Ofc there's no sense of emergency, it's an MMO and it's limited as you need players to have access to every content unlocked at any point.
It's also a design that reach other games, FF XV and VIIR had a way to "go back in time", Dragon Quest also somewhat had a way to go back in time. An RPG cannot lock you out of previous content as there is many side quest and such.

You cannot compare those to story game such as Detroit:Become Human or The Last of Us, those aren't RPG but more interactive movies (Detroit behing much more on the story side with many paths.)
That's comparing Milk and Cheese, those are the same base but meant to be consumed in different ways.

Plus, I doubt you understand what a Mary Sue is.
A Mary Sue is a character loved by all and jealoused by its ennemies, a Mary Sue is always right and has no weakness or flaws.
Rey from Star Wars is a good example, suddenly stronger than most if not all jedi, can pilot any ship or repair it.

I don't know who you identify as a Gary/Mary sue there. A character that miraculously survive is not a Mary Sue. That's more of a plot armor.

[ZeraSkiratea]

Ofc there's no sense of emergency, it's an MMO and it's limited as you need players to have access to every content unlocked at any point.
It's also a design that reach other games, FF XV and VIIR had a way to "go back in time", Dragon Quest also somewhat had a way to go back in time. An RPG cannot lock you out of previous content as there is many side quest and such.

Well i disagree on this part. An RPG can, should, and has, very well cut you off from side content if you progressed to far with no way to returning.
Xenoblade 1 and 2 are examples of that

In 1 several Dozen of side Quests can be entirely missed and become inacessable do to story progression rendering the Area they where located in inacessable.
Several parts of the Colectopedia(a system where you use items found on the field to fill it in and gain rewards if you finish a "page"(aka all items of a certain type in a certain location) could no longer be found do to the area being no longer existing. The only way to ever doing them, is finishing the game, and starting New game+ on the fiel(or doing an entirealy new file) at which point however, you have to play the ENTIRE game again(granted its far easier do to you being overleveld as all hell)

2 does the same, but far less seveer with only 1 Region becoming inacessable and that area having very few quests to begin with(like maybe a dozen quests total)

Funnily enough Xenoblade X, despite being the closests to being a single player MMO there is in my opinion in terms of Structure, combat, and other factors.(as in it feels like an MMO.. just without it being an MMO actualy) still has missable content, the Lao heart to hearts are missable completly, do to story reassons making them inacessable after a certain story progression.(however they are not tied with any achievements, or completion Percentage(you can get 100% without them))

however FFXIV is an MMO, so it cant do that, sadly i do say that this is my biggest gripe with the game, it cant change Field Areas, citys etc more then visualy changing a model(So you cant have for example Ishgard with a pillar blocking the Stairs as the main ishgard map as that would create two different collission maps, one for those who arent yet there, and one for those wo are yet there, it can only change the pillar that is already there, to be destroyed, it has the same colission as the OG pillar, but looks visualy different)

[Vidu]

I'll take that list of your 50 games with a better story, please!

...mainly, because I'm always intrested in adding new games with good stories to my list of games to play.

Other than that... I really enjoy the story of FFXIV - I wouldnt say its my favorite FF-story (probably partly of nostalgia for some of the other FFs and partly because its gotten so long that its gotten difficult to keep all aspects in mind, while some other, shorter games tell stories that are a lot more streamlined and "packed").

I would always recommend not falling for any hypes, if you can avoid it - you'll always end up disappointed and might judge things worse than they are just because they didnt live up to your expectations, which might have been to high in the first place.

[tatatatatata]

I'll take that list of your 50 games with a better story, please!

...mainly, because I'm always intrested in adding new games with good stories to my list of games to play.

Other than that... I really enjoy the story of FFXIV - I wouldnt say its my favorite FF-story (probably partly of nostalgia for some of the other FFs and partly because its gotten so long that its gotten difficult to keep all aspects in mind, while some other, shorter games tell stories that are a lot more streamlined and "packed").

I would always recommend not falling for any hypes, if you can avoid it - you'll always end up disappointed and might judge things worse than they are just because they didnt live up to your expectations, which might have been to high in the first place.

For something recent, Nier:Replicant recently got a remake and it has a pretty good story. A lot of filler, however, but most of those are relegated to optional side-quests. There's always the Mass Effect franchise if you haven't tried it out before and the Legendary Edition is a great way to get into the trilogy. There are the classics like Chrono Trigger and FF9. All these are better than FF14's story IMO. On the indie side, Omori has a touching story, though it suffers from a bad pacing in the midgame. TLoU 2 is one of the most immersive stories last year and the vitriol it got is honestly just mostly transphobia and homophobia so I wouldn't take the TLoU 2 hate that seriously. I think FF14 shines at having a decent story while also being an MMO. But I just find it hard to see how its story is better than single player games. Games I would recommend staying away from: FF7 Remake (the last chapter is really bad) and Cyberpunk.

[ZedxKayn]

Really makes me roll my eyes that people think a critical opinion of the greatest story ever = bait, a troll, or MPK lmao

Newsflash: people who don't share your opinion aren't here to troll and it's very rude to dismiss them as bait. Gives the GCBTW the meaning it has.