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    Final Fantasy XIV doesn't actually have that good of a story

    I played a lot of other Final Fantasy's and a lot of gaming sites say that FF14 has one of the best stories in the franchise so I tried it out. This is an issue of the hype killing the game. FF14 has a good story but it's not as good as the hype makes it out to be so in the end I was disappointed. I can give you 50 games that had a better story than FF14.

    The first issue is that there is too much filler in the story that adds next to nothing to the lore or the story. Having to play hide and seek with children is not interesting. Having to harvest vegetables as the freaking Warrior of Light is stupid. The game suffers from being an MMO by having to give you way too much filler.

    The second issue is that the game can't be as immersive as modern story-driven games. The Last of Us 2 is capable of making you feel sad, angry, and horrified because the game is designed in a very immersive manner. FF14 makes you read the dialogues which isn't as immersive as modern story games.

    The third issue is that even in world-ending, cataclysmic events, there is no sense of urgency. This is partially because FF14 isn't as immersive as single player games. It's also because there are way too many Mary Sue moments in the game where you expect someone to die but they miraculously survive. After a few Mary Sue moments you just don't expect anyone to die anymore. Because of that there is not much tension to be felt in the story.

    I'm not saying the story is bad, but it's definitely not one of the best stories in a video game nor is it really even one of the better stories among the Final Fantasy franchise. I enjoyed FF14 and it does have a better story than WoW but I don't think it matches up to actual single player games at all. So I really don't get the hype and IMO people have just not played enough thought-provoking story games outside of FF14. Saying it has one of the best stories in video gaming history is an exaggeration at best.
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    Neat. I liked it tho.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Well yeah, hype does that, dont come at anything because of hype, it preemptively sets you up to hold something at a high standard which easily sets you up for disappointment.
    Hype should generate interest, but dont let awards or excited people give you an idea of anything, until you see and experience it yourself.

    Then...everything else is just different strokes for different folks and your personal opinion. Which are all fine to have. I dont care for FF:VII despite how much EVERYONE loves it.
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    The fact you decided to say the last of us 2 was good completely made your point invalid.

    If you didn't feel anything from this games story I'd suggest you quit now and move back to those single player games you praise so much. Since it sounds like a MMO is notvyour Cup of tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garruss View Post
    If you didn't feel anything from this games story I'd suggest you quit now and move back to those single player games you praise so much.
    The ff14 community seems to have a serious issue with any sort of criticism on their game or comparison to other games, usually resulting in an immediate kneejerk "get lost and quit and go play your other game then!" reaction. It's not healthy. People are allowed to dislike parts of the game in the same way others are allowed to like them. I enjoy the story myself, but opinions are just opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garruss View Post
    The fact you decided to say the last of us 2 was good completely made your point invalid.
    And this is where the thread should have ended.

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    We've had a lot of trolls with recent join dates the past year, so at this point whenever we see a thread that feels like bait, we assume it's bait.
    If it looks like bait, sounds like bait and acts like bait...it's totally bait.

    It's just GD 101 at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garruss View Post
    The fact you decided to say the last of us 2 was good completely made your point invalid.

    If you didn't feel anything from this games story I'd suggest you quit now and move back to those single player games you praise so much. Since it sounds like a MMO is notvyour Cup of tea
    So...playing a different genre will somehow make them feel something from a story that they otherwise wouldn't feel anything from?

    I've been playing since ARR's release and I gotta agree that the story is HIGHLY overrated. It doesn't move me at all. I feel no emotion from any of it because the characters are all horrible stereotypes, dull, and barely grow over the years. And the story, as of this expansion, has become a convoluted mess of nonsense befitting a low-budget indie game.

    I guess MMOs just don't do it for me...Beats me why I've been playing them for over 20 years and loving them all those years. Thank goodness you were here to tell us that if we don't like THIS story that it means all MMOs aren't for us. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garruss View Post
    The fact you decided to say the last of us 2 was good completely made your point invalid.

    If you didn't feel anything from this games story I'd suggest you quit now and move back to those single player games you praise so much. Since it sounds like a MMO is notvyour Cup of tea
    Here is an example of Im right entitled and a narcissist. You basically told this guy he is completely wrong by saying one of his Favorite games is bad. Hmmmmm The Hypocrisy is amazing in ff fans these days.

    But Im only in the forums for entertainment and you single handedly entertained me with your hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonk View Post
    Here is an example of Im right entitled and a narcissist. You basically told this guy he is completely wrong by saying one of his Favorite games is bad. Hmmmmm The Hypocrisy is amazing in ff fans these days.

    But Im only in the forums for entertainment and you single handedly entertained me with your hypocrisy.
    Randomly necromancing threads and hoping no one notices the dates, are we? This is familiar.
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    There being lots of filler is a valid point, though they've cut back on it quite a bit post-ARR (And even pruned a lot of it from ARR itself) and largely shoved the menial tasks into optional quests. It being a flaw inherent to the MMO genre is a valid point, though.

    I've regularly felt emotionally invested in things regardless of there being spoken dialogue or not. Story is not the game's sole or even primary focus, so I wouldn't expect it to be as good as some others in that regard in the first place.

    The whole "no sense of urgency" thing is present in virtually all of the other FF games and several others outside of the series, and is honestly almost omni-present in games that are not completely linear from beginning to end. Railroading the player into plot progression in anything other then a strictly story-driven game that has no grinding whatsoever is generally a bad idea.

    Those things said, I still have personally found the story to be one of the most enjoyable in the franchise due to all the nuance and nigh-constant sense of intrigue due to all the mysteries present in the world and its cultures that have gradually unraveled as time has gone on. I'd agree it's probably not one of the best stories in gaming as a whole, though.
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