[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[HollowedDoll]

Would it possible to use gpose to move the camera or something? idk I don't use gpose much

You can change the fov, but that makes things a lot less accurate, unfortunately there isn't a way to really detach the camera so you can't really go horizontally up or down without it looking weird.
EDIT:
Seems I was wrong

[Renik]

Sorry, but that comparison shot straight away looks wrong to me. The horizontal bars on the window and the base of the bed should be your biggest indicator as to whether you've got the camera at the right angle, and they're quite different.

Also, are you certain they're in the same place on the floor?

I comment on that on my other post, that's why I decided to add an error of around 3cm, even thought it's a deviation on the horizontal axis, the vertical one and the vertical details as well as the base of the bed are almost perfectly matched, the lighting can make it hard to appreciate tho. A deviation in the horizontal axis wouldn't affect that much for a*height comparison becauset they are in different 3d enviroments, If you compare it to others around, mine is way more accurate, I posted the edited and non-edited version as well as the full images, while the others are extremely cropped and show deviations in multiple axis and blurriness, I'm not saying it's perfect, but I have been honest and careful with it, lying on a comparison is not gonna change their real height.

And yes I'm sure they are in the same place where the m viera feet are shown in the previous frame when he gets up, again, not perfect but more accurate than others, we still can't exact numbers, but it's accurate enough to see they are not tiny and that they are probably same height as the females.

Also want to add that imgur seems to lower the quality of the screenshot, mine were taken in 4k, but after uploading and reducing the size a bit to not fill the wide of the forum window for users with smaller resolution, it seems that there's some quality loss.

As I said if you have the patience, make the comparison yourself, as long as you're honest and careful with it you should get an approximate idea of their eight, it's better than trusting on other's comparisons, and gives us more data to work with.

If he decides to fix it I'd really like to see the corrected version.

This took close to an hour, I'm not sure if I want to do it again, I'm supposed to be working now
But anyway, there are no vertical deviations, only a small horizontal one, you can see that the vertical details match almost perfectly with the red lines I added in the last picture, they are not there to mark the viera and elezen but the details in the background.

Edit: just checked the original shots in 4k, as I thought is only affecting the horizontal axis, but now it's bothering me, I'll try to make a new one this evening if I have time.
I don't think it's gonna make a big difference tho.

I mean I've yet to see one that actually lines up 100%, hence why I suggested seeing where the lightshaft strikes on the character once you walk forward.
The reason why it's so hard to get it right is because the camera sits higher or lower depending on your height.

I wouldn't use the one where they are running or walking tho, I think that idle ones with landmarks on the background are more accurate, this allows to ignore the camera height and the horizontal axis, and just to add to this, the camera is not completely focused on your character height, you can perfectly adjust the height in game.

[_Koneko_]

when is the slider coming for au'ra females where they can be taller then their male counter parts because surely your just as passionate addressing this injustice

[Fukuro]

when is the slider coming for au'ra females where they can be taller then their male counter parts because surely your just as passionate addressing this injustice

actually yes yes yes !!! give me tall demonic au ras, au ra males themselves are really tall i‘d have no problem with female au ra being taller


gib those big lizard ladies please, i‘d even love if fem hrothgals would be taller than the males - so your point is?

[BaconBits]

Fem au ras being turned into tiny uwu lizards instead of the big lizard ladies they were meant to be is the greatest tragedy FFXIV has ever faced.

[Haru304]

You think making female viera a bit smaller makes them glam dolls? They have mature grown up emotes. They look like women. Every small/mid range female in this game is cutesy anime because of emotes and animations. Even midlanders run and highlander emotes are this way. If the female viera ended up being shorter it wouldn’t be anything like the other female races we have in the lower height range. This is just another form of height discrimination. Height has nothing to do with being a cutesy glam girl.

Also, I’m pretty sure your comment infuriates the entire female population in Azim steppe. Sadu might want a word with you.

Please don't step on me, mommy Sadu. :<

[Gwenorai]

To be honest, all of them need a height scaler update. I will never be on the same side as those who think massive dimorphism is okay, looking at you au'ra - a tragedy. Anyway, I'm more than happy with them being the same height as females, if not a tad smaller. I'm hoping their height scales will allow for overlap. So a male Viera can be taller than minimum height FViera, but max height FViera - a rarity - are still taller than the men. And if any female Viera complains about that, then, IDK, make yourself taller if you're on the min-height?

We're literally in a day and age where we've got men and women of varying heights, and that's not touching upon the trans community etc, if people are going to keep using the 'well actually hares/rabbit females are bigger than males' then I'm going to use this. I get it, it's fantasy and all that but come on. Time to move on from height being an indicator of what's rocking in your pants.

[SturmChurro]

1. Female Viera max height is 75 inches.
2. Male Midlander max height is 71 inches.
3. If you make male Viera shorter than female Viera, even by just 2-3 inches, it would mean they would be very similar in height to Midlanders, and that would defeat the whole purpose of having a new, tall handsome male race.

Even if male viera were slightly shorter at max, that's still like 6'1, 6'2. That's pretty much PERFECT height for a man. Tall, but not too tall.

I'd be quite satisfied with that height, if they were to be on par with female even better. I don't think they need to be taller than female viera, when female viera at max are already a good height. SE looks to have struck a good balance here, looking at the more recent comparisons.

[Amnmaat]

Female Viera are only tall in comparison to other female races, very short when compared to males.
That's why we compare male Viera to their male counterparts. I support a height slider that allows them to be shorter than normal but you can't discount the side of the fanbase that also wants them tall. As stated, female Viera height would mirror Midlander to Highlander, at that point that's 3 human/normal looking short males. While on the tall side we only have male Elezen; on the tall side there's just no good option for those of us not looking for world of warcraft type characters.

[Renik]

Edit: just checked the original shots in 4k, as I thought is only affecting the horizontal axis, but now it's bothering me, I'll try to make a new one this evening if I have time.
I don't think it's gonna make a big difference tho.

I have been trying for more than 1h, that video was probably taken with some dev settings, it is really difficult if not impossible to match everything because of the lack of settings, with the normal camera and the gpose, if anything, the gpose camera is even more limited because it doesn't have an option to adjust the vertical axis.

Any attempt to fit the whole screen as is in the video would require me to move the character, but that would mess the scale and depth ruining the comparison, and even doing so I wouldn't be able to match the screen completely.

The lightning can't be matched either, so basing a comparison on that is pointless.

I looked at my previous screenshots with more detail, the zoom and scale are correct, as well as the position of the character, the details of the background match and scale almost perfectly, I think these reference points are more than enough, and all I can get with the tools we have in game, but I understand that people would doubt it, since after all there's no proof that I placed my elezen at the same distance from the bed as the m viera is on the video.

I'm sorry if this felt disappointing, It's all I could do.