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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Yeah Just stop having a phobia. Learn to control your fear. EZ.

    Fomo preys on people with legitimate disorders causing loss-aversion based anxiety and it is totally a problem. You might not think so, but that's just cause you're not afraid of spiders. (The first word is LITERALLY "FEAR" for christ's sake)

    I personally have a lot of timed exclusive items that I would 100% love to see others get because I don't base my importance on having something someone else can't have.

    (also you're thinking "envy" Envy is the emotion you feel when you want something someone else has. Jealousy is the compulsive emotion that you feel when you have something that you don't want others to have. You know, the one that people feel when their exclusive item is offered to others.)

    And I don't really have a care to spare for what makes executives and shareholders happy. Excusing predatory anti-consumer practices is THEIR job. As a consumer it's my job to resist that crap as much as I can.
    Not buying it, I tried to put distance between genuine phobias and fomo but you seem to be trying to tie them together. It's you doing that, not me.

    What loss aversion anxiety are you referring to? Do you have any proof to suggest this is a big problem? How small is this percentage of people who suffer from it? I'm referring to people who have genuine psychological problems because the vast majority of people suffering from fomo could completely solve it by adjusting their own mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    Not buying it, I tried to put distance between genuine phobias and fomo but you seem to be trying to tie them together. It's you doing that, not me.

    What loss aversion anxiety are you referring to? Do you have any proof to suggest this is a big problem? How small is this percentage of people who suffer from it? I'm referring to people who have genuine psychological problems because the vast majority of people suffering from fomo could completely solve it by adjusting their own mentality.
    Irrational anxiety is irrational anxiety sometimes it's so bad that even if you know it's irrational, you are still affected by it.
    It's to trigger the same fight or flight response that scammers use when they have "YOU HAVE X MINUTES TO RESPOND TO THIS OR ELSE JAIL/FEE/REPOSESSION/ETC" If you have an unmitigated anxiety disorder, it's real easy to fall prey to these tactics without knowing.

    Compulsive buyers are the target whales for fomo tactics. These are those that can drop thousands of dollars on gacha games, not because they're stupid, but they have a genuine problem. Companies know this, and they don't care, because this exploitation is easy money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Irrational anxiety is irrational anxiety sometimes it's so bad that even if you know it's irrational, you are still affected by it.
    It's to trigger the same fight or flight response that scammers use when they have "YOU HAVE X MINUTES TO RESPOND TO THIS OR ELSE JAIL/FEE/REPOSESSION/ETC" If you have an unmitigated anxiety disorder, it's real easy to fall prey to these tactics without knowing.
    Those scams prey on the vulnerable, they work against people with mental difficulties and the elderly, mainly. While this should be taken seriously I don't think it really applies to an offer that's valid for 6 months and nets you a minion and an earring in an MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Compulsive buyers are the target whales for fomo tactics. These are those that can drop thousands of dollars on gacha games, not because they're stupid, but they have a genuine problem. Companies know this, and they don't care, because this exploitation is easy money.
    Funny you should mention whales, they are the target of freemium games rather than subscription MMO's but I read an article the other day on gameanalytics.com. They looked at 175 million players and determined that 1.03% are minnows, 0.86% are dolphins and 0.2% are whales with 97.91% of players spending nothing at all. Expecting a company to change it's marketing strategy because 0.2% of players spend too much is probably asking too much.

    I read up a bit on fomo as we'd been talking about it. I read about 6 or 7 articles discussing why it's a problem for society, I chose articles highlighting it as problematic. Not one of them mentioned marketing even once. Every single one talked exclusively about social media and how it's easy to get the idea everyone else has better lives than us, go on more holidays, have nicer meals and a better social life.

    I'm not saying I'm a fan of fomo marketing tactics, I just think for the vast majority of people it's an internal problem, not an external one. As for FF14, 6 months to get the items is very generous by fomo standards even for a AAA game. 24 hours was a very common window to purchase items in Call of Duty for example.
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