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Thread: Pronouns???

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    Personally I don't think this should be added because it's not feasible to do at this point in the game's life. However....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitelancer View Post
    I think something that you are not considering is that it gives players less choice about their identity.

    First, players would be restricted to the list that the game provides them rather them being free to say their identity is whatever they want whenever they want.

    Second, players may want to change their identity later on. Do they need to buy fantasia and redo character creation in order to do so?

    Thirdly, players may have to make a choice at character creation that they are not yet comfortable making. It adds a needless tension to character creation. The choices are already hard enough.

    If you want, you can just add your pronouns to your character's search comment. It's a simple solution that gives all players more freedom.

    Another thing to consider is that no other players are interested in IRL identity for group content. They are interested in your ability to play, and presenting this information to them when there is no need to do so is a needless distraction.

    Personally, I believe transgenderism is a mental illness. But, I do not believe that trans and other types should be treated unkind; everyone should be treated kind and be respected if they show themselves to be kind and respectable in turn. But, I am not in support in promoting these types of practices as if it were something healthy for people. It is not.
    1. How is this LESS choice than the binary male/female options tied to your character gender as is?

    2. If this was theoretically added, just make it editable at the aesthtician for simplicity's sake.

    3. They could go with the default for their character gender in such a case, the same as it is now.

    4. I mean sure yeah you can add them to your search info but this thread is more about how the game npcs treat you not other players.

    5. Again this is more for how the npcs and story address the character not other players, so this is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Well apache does have a point
    thank you for using proper pronouns

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Like you can be blatantly Transphobic etc all you want, so long as you don't specifically say anything rude directly aimed at someone apparently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coletergeist View Post
    What point are they making with their comments? Other than being rude and mocking the community?
    I don't understand why you both berate my identity. I think it's absolutely hypocritical of you to pick and choose what you deem a 'proper' identity while simultaneously condemning ones that don't fit your ideals.

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    I like your ideas Apache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post
    I speak for everyone
    The hells you do. Do not presume to speak on my behalf, because clearly you bloody well DON'T.
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    As a gay man myself I really don't get why so many people put their sexuality in their search info, or their pronounse..
    It makes me want to avoid you personally.
    Makes you look like an attention seeker/drama queen.
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    You are not your character.
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    Look, I generally find this whole pronoun thing to be a bit farcical. That said my opinion aside this has been beaten to death.

    * There are many MANY MANY languages in this game that ALL must be accounted for when there is a systemwide change. That is work.
    * There are voiced cutscenes in which pronouns are used. Very unlikely to be able to coordinate voicing to replace this in EVERY LANGUAGE.

    Right there is enough to tell me we don't really need to think any further on this. It would be very minimal gain for work best spent elsewhere.
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    Last edited by HyperSMB; 05-14-2021 at 07:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    You are not your character.
    That is correct. I am not a nearly eight foot tall being with horns, a tail and beautiful golden scales.

    Like any being responding to this thread, I am just like you - a fellow human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    As a gay man myself I really don't get why so many people put their sexuality in their search info, or their pronounse..
    It makes me want to avoid you personally.
    Makes you look like an attention seeker/drama queen.
    Agreed. Or when fc’s put “lgbt friendly”. You shouldn’t have to put that. It should be assumed. But it’s like everywhere i look people have their sexuality on their search info everywhere and i genuinely don’t get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyJollyPaca View Post
    Any particular reason to appose it?
    Twitter as an example.
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