Pronouns???

[MicahZerrshia]

Agreed. Or when fc’s put “lgbt friendly”. You shouldn’t have to put that. It should be assumed.

Yes it should be. But there are FCs out there that are openly hostile or have members that are extremely hostile to lgbt folks or poc. Just like in real life, you don't want to go hang out at a place that you are not comfortable or feel welcome at. And in a time where ppl are still being beaten, killed, shunned and abused because of their sexuality, it's nice to know the places that are welcoming so they can simply go in and feel at ease. I mean this is the whole reason lbgt bars and shops exist in the first place. Many players, just like ppl irl, do not actually advertise their sexuality, but they also don't want to sit there and listen to homophobic comments constantly and then be told to just get over it. And that doesn't even go just for gay ppl. Not every straight person wants to hear it either.

We had this in an old static I was in, every other word out of one of the members mouth was a slur of some sort. Then when asked, politely, by the straight fc leader to be a little respectful to their fc mates because everyone deserves to feel welcome in the group, the response was, well...cringy and caused all sorts of drama. Not from the ppl who just wanted to play the game and have fun with their mates, but from the ppl who thought it was their first amendment right to be as hateful as they possibly could be. And tried (unsuccessfully) for over a month to bring the whole guild crashing down just because they were asked to not use certain words.

Simply saying lgbtq friendly in your fc advert or asking ppl in your guild to be respectful of other members is not pushing it in anyone's face. It's simply stating "hey, we got you bro" to the ppl who want to know they can play the game without listening to some idiot try to be edgy, and "move-on" to the ppl who don't or won't understand because they don't themselves. Or worse, those who actively try to ruin another player's experience for such asinine reasons as their sexuality.

If you really do not understand, consider yourself lucky that you have never had to enter spaces irl or online on a daily basis and wonder if you are going to be accepted or be in danger for simply existing.

Those are a dime a dozen, now where are my "traditional, conservative" FCs. Those are rare.

They are also a dime a dozen, but don't tend to have many members. So my suggestion would be, make one. Help the ones that exist advertise and gain members. Use 'conservatives only' in your adverts. There is literally nothing stopping you.

[MPK]

Yes it should be. But there are FCs out there that are openly hostile or have members that are extremely hostile to lgbt folks or poc. Just like in real life, you don't want to go hang out at a place that you are not comfortable or feel welcome at. And in a time where ppl are still being beaten, killed, shunned and abused because of their sexuality, it's nice to know the places that are welcoming so they can simply go in and feel at ease. I mean this is the whole reason lbgt bars and shops exist in the first place. Many players, just like ppl irl, do not actually advertise their sexuality, but they also don't want to sit there and listen to homophobic comments constantly and then be told to just get over it. And that doesn't even go just for gay ppl. Not every straight person wants to hear it either.

We had this in an old static I was in, every other word out of one of the members mouth was a slur of some sort. Then when asked, politely, by the straight fc leader to be a little respectful to their fc mates because everyone deserves to feel welcome in the group, the response was, well...cringy and caused all sorts of drama. Not from the ppl who just wanted to play the game and have fun with their mates, but from the ppl who thought it was their first amendment right to be as hateful as they possibly could be. And tried (unsuccessfully) for over a month to bring the whole guild crashing down just because they were asked to not use certain words.

Simply saying lgbtq friendly in your fc advert or asking ppl in your guild to be respectful of other members is not pushing it in anyone's face. It's simply stating "hey, we got you bro" to the ppl who want to know they can play the game without listening to some idiot try to be edgy, and "move-on" to the ppl who don't or won't understand because they don't themselves. Or worse, those who actively try to ruin another player's experience for such asinine reasons as their sexuality.

If you really do not understand, consider yourself lucky that you have never had to enter spaces irl or online on a daily basis and wonder if you are going to be accepted or be in danger for simply existing.

Literally no one swears or says slurs ingame or shun players of their race/sexuality because of how ban happy the GMs are in this game. Do you even raid? You don't even have any mounts or achievements for savage so what static is this for?

[MicahZerrshia]

Literally no one swears or says slurs ingame because of how ban happy the GMs are in this game. Do you even raid? You don't even have any mounts or achievements for savage so what static is this for?

Known, and very poor troll account I know. But this was on discord during ARR/HW. See all those ponies and birds. I did raid before I got too busy in college. Nice try tho.

[MPK]

Known, and very poor troll account I know. But this was on discord during ARR/HW. See all those ponies and birds. I did raid before I got too busy in college. Nice try tho.

Literally no one makes statics for Extremes. Hell, I've never even been asked about what my Sexuality/Race is. Why does it matter for raiding? Literally no one goes out of their way to attack someone for no reason in this game especially due to how ban happy the GMs are.

[Vahlnir]

Simply saying lgbtq friendly in your fc advert or asking ppl in your guild to be respectful of other members is not pushing it in anyone's face. It's simply stating "hey, we got you bro" to the ppl who want to know they can play the game without listening to some idiot try to be edgy, and "move-on" to the ppl who don't or won't understand because they don't themselves. Or worse, those who actively try to ruin another player's experience for such asinine reasons as their sexuality.

Pretty much this. Unfortunately, people can be that terrible. It's the world we live in. Having such spaces where players can be themselves isn't a bad thing at all.

[Sotaris]

No. I don't want these things in my games.

[MilkieTea]

No. I don't want these things in my games.

You dont want pronouns in your games, I take it?

[Sotaris]

You dont want pronouns in your games, I take it?

Thanks for repeating my comment. Fun with words?

[LianaThorne]

How is this thread still alive? Thought it was ended like 8 pages ago.

[SilverObi]

I feel like people are responding to other posters and not the OP's original suggestion and it shows. It's already been agreed on by most of the coherent posters in this thread and OP themselves that it'd be quite a bit of work for SE to go back and alter/flag 8+ years of dialogue to account for the various permutations that might exist for desired pronouns as well as languages and that should've been the end of it. Instead here you are arguing over gender politics and "not in muh game" as well as feeding the blatant trolls...

How is this thread still alive? Thought it was ended like 8 pages ago.

I can't agree with you more. It seemed like it'd be over by page 3 this morning but then I see this ongoing trainwreck, though it doesn't surprise me.