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  1. #61
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    _Koneko_'s Avatar
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    Matoya Rhul
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Well it's more like... where exactly do the Shards exist in XIV's universe? Are they like Drakengard's Earth and NieR Earth where they exist in parallel universes? does NieR Earth exist in the same parallel universe the First exists on? or did 2B and 9S upload their data into the Seed (or whatever) before it appeared on the First? and does that mean there's also a Seed on the Source and other Shards?

    I don't really remember all the details on where Shards exist, even if it was explained already.
    well i think they all exist in a sorta pocket universe omega's ability to travel the rift between worlds was why it was included in Tycoon's design the point of Tycoon was to travel back in time but also be able to traverse the rift to reach the 1st which is why alexander and omega was reverse engineered
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    Last edited by _Koneko_; 05-13-2021 at 05:04 PM.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I loved the raids but I haven't played Nier so I had no expectations. Seems a number that have are disappointed they expected and wanted more.
    I did not play any of the nier games so no I had no expectation about that...what I did expect though is at least a good story. For me it was not even near that. We spent a lot of the time with a NPC that turns out to be a traitor and the "real" ones are barely even there. Somehow we just accept that the boy who attacked us is now nice and kind to us and as soon as he is awake they kinda already disappear again.

    For all the talk about how awesome Yoko Taro is, I am a bit shocked at what we got at the end. And those weekly quest also dont really help either. Most of the information from the letters is stuff we already could find out ourselves and we barely did anything with the strange behaviour of their leader.
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  3. #63
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    We spent a lot of the time with a NPC that turns out to be a traitor and the "real" ones are barely even there.
    Not even that - we barely spend any time with 2P either, and most of it is just traversing the factory and getting the most basic level of exposition from her. Certainly not enough for her betrayal to hurt in any way. And yeah, we barely spent any time with the supposed main crossover characters - they barely spoke to us in the Puppets' Bunker chapter, were entirely absent for the interlude, and didn't talk to us at the tower either except for guiding us through and several variations of "ignore the machines, they don't have feelings" - and this after all three raids have had nothing but dialogue from the machines and "puppets" being angry at us for killing their friends.

    Talking of the puppets, they're such a weird non-plot point. They crash their spaceship on us, emerge from the wreckage dressed in black, immediately turn white like it should be some kind of revelation, and retreat into the bunker where we just fight them because.

    There's just no personality from start to finish - and then 2B's departing message says she'll remember the time we spent together and I'm just...what? What time? I don't even feel like I know you at this point.
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  4. #64
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    This quest line is so irritating but I keep doing it because I want to see some sort of payoff.
    But week in and week out it’s the same :
    Dwarf: “oh wow I was rude before but I want to be a good dwarf now ) Please let me help by asking you to do a fetch quest”
    Glagg appears and has An Episode, then walks away.
    Konogg sends us a letter giving us some weird half explanation about the events that already transpired, and asks an additional question.
    Rinse and repeat.

    I enjoyed the raids mechanically and the rewards were awesome but this story is just so...nothing. And we even had additional quests in between raid patches to expand the story...
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  5. #65
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    To be fair, it was always going to be a condensed experience compared to a full game. I thought the 2P betrayal was a refreshing change of pace - there wasn't a whole lot of emotional investment with the character, but it was the first time in a while that the Warrior of Darkness was forced to acknowledge that blindly working for whoever asks them for aid is not necessarily a good thing.

    I also think people are downplaying the abhorrent attack upon 9S. Thankfully it wasn't lethal but if it were, 2B would absolutely be justified in regards to putting down the Warrior of Darkness.

    I don't think the Nier raid is any more contrived than the circumstances surrounding G'raha, really.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I keep hoping there will some rewards at the end of the quest line. They are all pretty quick and somewhat repetitive right now.
    9s glam. Ima keep advocating for it till we get it :c
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  7. #67
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    I think the next one is the last one, though i'm not entirely sure.
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  8. #68
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    if the final massage contained the blueprints for the flight unit but you needed to run the nier raids 100 times would you do it ?
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    "Stop right there, criminal scum! Nobody breaks the terms of service on my watch! I'm reporting your illegal mods, now enjoy your time in gm jail."

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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Koneko_ View Post
    if the final massage contained the blueprints for the flight unit but you needed to run the nier raids 100 times would you do it ?
    If there was absolutely no other way to get it--yes. But id hate it lol
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Listrella View Post
    I think the next one is the last one, though i'm not entirely sure.
    Three are 6 but more may be added with 5.55.
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