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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post



    I could be wrong, entirely. But it looks like that part of the "scythe" people are seeing is actually just... part of the structure in the back of his chair.
    That isn't the only thing I noticed now that you highlighted it. Zenos's weapon has a curved, flared handle indicating it is to be gripped near the end. That is not the handle of a polearm, they are gripped in the center. That kind of handle is typical of scimitars:





    It is also the kind of handle found on early muskets and Garlean gunblades:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    That isn't the only thing I noticed now that you highlighted it. Zenos's weapon has a curved, flared handle indicating it is to be gripped near the end. That is not the handle of a polearm, they are gripped in the center. That kind of handle is typical of scimitars:





    It is also the kind of handle found on early muskets and Garlean gunblades:



    Yep! it makes a lot of sense for zenos to pick up the garlean gunblade. This isn't to say we won't get a scythe wielder! Just means Zenos probably won't be the scythe wielder if we do get that kind of job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Yep! it makes a lot of sense for zenos to pick up the garlean gunblade. This isn't to say we won't get a scythe wielder! Just means Zenos probably won't be the scythe wielder if we do get that kind of job.
    Yeah, it fits with the animation and sound effect. It is about the right height. Handle looks pretty close to what we see leaning on the chair. Fandaniel would not have expected it since Zenos switched from the gunblade to the katana in Stormblood. And it would be appropriate for the de facto ruler of Garlemald to wield a Garlean weapon. So it fits the dialog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Also! I just drew up what I've been thinking this entire time:

    I could be wrong, entirely. But it looks like that part of the "scythe" people are seeing is actually just... part of the structure in the back of his chair.
    Everything in that picture is some varying shade of orange/black, because of the fire. Zenos’ hair also matches the color you pointed out.

    What’s throwing people off and leading them to believe it’s a weapon and not part of the chair is that the chair is otherwise symmetrical except for that part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Everything in that picture is some varying shade of orange/black, because of the fire. Zenos’ hair also matches the color you pointed out.

    What’s throwing people off and leading them to believe it’s a weapon and not part of the chair is that the chair is otherwise symmetrical except for that part of it.


    Zenos' hair is the first color, the chair is the second and the mistaken scythe is the 3rd. Allowing for pixel variations (its a screenshot of a compressed video, of course there's going to be pixel variations) the two colors that more closely match are straight-up orange, whereas Zenos' hair is a true yellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post


    Zenos' hair is the first color, the chair is the second and the mistaken scythe is the 3rd. Allowing for pixel variations (its a screenshot of a compressed video, of course there's going to be pixel variations) the two colors that more closely match are straight-up orange, whereas Zenos' hair is a true yellow.
    It looks the same to me zoomed out but I’ll take your word for it since you provided the zoomed in color swatch. Thanks for that!

    Still, I don’t think it’s part of the structure. It doesn’t really make much sense to have the piece jutting out on one side only when the rest of the chair is otherwise symmetrical. Even if it ends up being a weird design choice, I don’t blame people for thinking that it’s a weapon.

    What weapon is the question- I’d personally be pretty disappointed if he just picks up a gunblade again, after making such a show out of him picking out a new weapon. It doesn’t have to be the new melee class (I’m not crazy about scythes, it just feels the most fitting imo) but if they’re going to bother making it some big reveal, at least make it interesting. He has no love for Garlemand or garlean arts- him using a garlean weapon to try to fell the WoL wouldn’t really have significance to him personally. Sure he’s the ruler, technically. But in the trailer and the art kinda looks like he’s the ruler of nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Still, I don’t think it’s part of the structure. It doesn’t really make much sense to have the piece jutting out on one side only when the rest of the chair is otherwise symmetrical. Even if it ends up being a weird design choice, I don’t blame people for thinking that it’s a weapon.
    It definitely to me at least looks to be a strange design choice.

    Side note: I looked a bit harder and the part that people think is the scythe blade isn't where it would be if it were separate from the chair.



    There's a weird cut off if it were a scythe blade. If it were the scythe blade and just behind the chair "wings" at a tilted angle, the entire blade would be visible. and if it were in front of the chair wings (on the same "layer" as Zenos, so to say), then the "blade" would cut off earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    this picture is off of reddit but... i'm 90% sure youre right. I looked at the scene in EW where we see the supposed scythe and it literally doesn't look like a scythe at all.

    Why'd they highlight one of the chair arms? That whole thing isn't a weapon, the majority of that is one of the arms of his chair, and duplicated on the other side.

    Anyway, I think it's not propped up against the chair with the blade at the top. I bet that's the hilt/bottom of the weapon, and he'll stand up or something and pull the blade up from where his feet would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shofie View Post
    Why'd they highlight one of the chair arms? That whole thing isn't a weapon, the majority of that is one of the arms of his chair, and duplicated on the other side.

    Anyway, I think it's not propped up against the chair with the blade at the top. I bet that's the hilt/bottom of the weapon, and he'll stand up or something and pull the blade up from where his feet would be.
    I believe they were emphasizing that the part everyone thinks is the weapon is actually just a part of the arm chair, and that it's easier to see when you isolate the full "wing".

    In my other posts though, I chose to just emphasize the part that everyone thinks is the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post

    What weapon is the question- I’d personally be pretty disappointed if he just picks up a gunblade again, after making such a show out of him picking out a new weapon. It doesn’t have to be the new melee class (I’m not crazy about scythes, it just feels the most fitting imo) but if they’re going to bother making it some big reveal, at least make it interesting. He has no love for Garlemand or garlean arts- him using a garlean weapon to try to fell the WoL wouldn’t really have significance to him personally. Sure he’s the ruler, technically. But in the trailer and the art kinda looks like he’s the ruler of nothing.
    Garlemald is in the same position Doma and Ala Migho were in Stormblood. War-torn, devastated land occupied by Zenos's army with Zenos camped out in the royal palace with a primal he intends to merge with. We got one class based out of Doma, Samurai, and one based out Ala Migho, Red Mage. And since we want to talk about color schemes let me point out that Yoshida's shirt he wore on the stage has a very interesting color scheme of red, black, white, gold and orange:





    You know where we have seen that color scheme before?



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