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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Everything in that picture is some varying shade of orange/black, because of the fire. Zenos’ hair also matches the color you pointed out.

    What’s throwing people off and leading them to believe it’s a weapon and not part of the chair is that the chair is otherwise symmetrical except for that part of it.


    Zenos' hair is the first color, the chair is the second and the mistaken scythe is the 3rd. Allowing for pixel variations (its a screenshot of a compressed video, of course there's going to be pixel variations) the two colors that more closely match are straight-up orange, whereas Zenos' hair is a true yellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post


    Zenos' hair is the first color, the chair is the second and the mistaken scythe is the 3rd. Allowing for pixel variations (its a screenshot of a compressed video, of course there's going to be pixel variations) the two colors that more closely match are straight-up orange, whereas Zenos' hair is a true yellow.
    It looks the same to me zoomed out but I’ll take your word for it since you provided the zoomed in color swatch. Thanks for that!

    Still, I don’t think it’s part of the structure. It doesn’t really make much sense to have the piece jutting out on one side only when the rest of the chair is otherwise symmetrical. Even if it ends up being a weird design choice, I don’t blame people for thinking that it’s a weapon.

    What weapon is the question- I’d personally be pretty disappointed if he just picks up a gunblade again, after making such a show out of him picking out a new weapon. It doesn’t have to be the new melee class (I’m not crazy about scythes, it just feels the most fitting imo) but if they’re going to bother making it some big reveal, at least make it interesting. He has no love for Garlemand or garlean arts- him using a garlean weapon to try to fell the WoL wouldn’t really have significance to him personally. Sure he’s the ruler, technically. But in the trailer and the art kinda looks like he’s the ruler of nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    Still, I don’t think it’s part of the structure. It doesn’t really make much sense to have the piece jutting out on one side only when the rest of the chair is otherwise symmetrical. Even if it ends up being a weird design choice, I don’t blame people for thinking that it’s a weapon.
    It definitely to me at least looks to be a strange design choice.

    Side note: I looked a bit harder and the part that people think is the scythe blade isn't where it would be if it were separate from the chair.



    There's a weird cut off if it were a scythe blade. If it were the scythe blade and just behind the chair "wings" at a tilted angle, the entire blade would be visible. and if it were in front of the chair wings (on the same "layer" as Zenos, so to say), then the "blade" would cut off earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post

    What weapon is the question- I’d personally be pretty disappointed if he just picks up a gunblade again, after making such a show out of him picking out a new weapon. It doesn’t have to be the new melee class (I’m not crazy about scythes, it just feels the most fitting imo) but if they’re going to bother making it some big reveal, at least make it interesting. He has no love for Garlemand or garlean arts- him using a garlean weapon to try to fell the WoL wouldn’t really have significance to him personally. Sure he’s the ruler, technically. But in the trailer and the art kinda looks like he’s the ruler of nothing.
    Garlemald is in the same position Doma and Ala Migho were in Stormblood. War-torn, devastated land occupied by Zenos's army with Zenos camped out in the royal palace with a primal he intends to merge with. We got one class based out of Doma, Samurai, and one based out Ala Migho, Red Mage. And since we want to talk about color schemes let me point out that Yoshida's shirt he wore on the stage has a very interesting color scheme of red, black, white, gold and orange:





    You know where we have seen that color scheme before?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Garlemald is in the same position Doma and Ala Migho were in Stormblood. War-torn, devastated land occupied by Zenos's army with Zenos camped out in the royal palace with a primal he intends to merge with. We got one class based out of Doma, Samurai, and one based out Ala Migho, Red Mage. And since we want to talk about color schemes let me point out that Yoshida's shirt he wore on the stage has a very interesting color scheme of red, black, white, gold and orange:





    You know where we have seen that color scheme before?



    Considering he went from a gunblade to katana i doubt he'd be going back to gunblade especially since he said he hasn't tested the weapon yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    Considering he went from a gunblade to katana i doubt he'd be going back to gunblade especially since he said he hasn't tested the weapon yet
    It depends. For example, if he picked up his father's gunblade:





    he wouldn't have had time to test it since the incident in the throne room and it is different from the one Zenos used previously. And then there is Fandaniel's dialog which indicates it is a weapon he doubted Zenos would have selected and he knows Zenos dumped the gunblade in favor of a katana.

    And the Final Fantasy series does like giving it's main villains longswords with red blades; Ardyn Izunia being the most recent example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    It depends. For example, if he picked up his father's gunblade:





    he wouldn't have had time to test it since the incident in the throne room and it is different from the one Zenos used previously. And then there is Fandaniel's dialog which indicates it is a weapon he doubted Zenos would have selected and he knows Zenos dumped the gunblade in favor of a katana.

    And the Final Fantasy series does like giving it's main villains longswords with red blades; Ardyn Izunia being the most recent example.
    I doubt its varis's gunblade since we know what one end of the new weapon looks like and it does not look like either side of varis's gunblade (not to mention that he would have most likely already used that type of gunblade before meaning he would have tested it before)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    I doubt its varis's gunblade since we know what one end of the new weapon looks like and it does not look like either side of varis's gunblade (not to mention that he would have most likely already used that type of gunblade before meaning he would have tested it before)
    We'll see. Either way, it doesn't change the fact what we see of the weapon on the chair and the animation of that scene at the end of 5.5 don't line up with a scythe. Nor does the scythe theory easily square up with Yoshida's other recent shirt hints:





    By the way, don't we a character in the game that gave us a big speech about lies, deceit, deception, creeping mendacity, etc...?

    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    But we already have gunblade, so the RDM and SAM stuff doesn’t really correlate here.
    Classes that use swords: Paladin, Dark Knight, Samurai, Red Mage
    Classes that use staffs: White Mage, Black Mage
    Classes that use books: Scholar, Summoner
    Classes that use scythes: Botanist

    And the point is we got 2 martial classes out of 3 lands Zenos has ruled so far; I wouldn't bet against them from going 3 for 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Garlemald is in the same position Doma and Ala Migho were in Stormblood. War-torn, devastated land occupied by Zenos's army with Zenos camped out in the royal palace with a primal he intends to merge with. We got one class based out of Doma, Samurai, and one based out Ala Migho, Red Mage. And since we want to talk about color schemes let me point out that Yoshida's shirt he wore on the stage has a very interesting color scheme of red, black, white, gold and orange:





    You know where we have seen that color scheme before?



    But we already have gunblade, so the RDM and SAM stuff doesn’t really correlate here.

    I’ll give you (I think you’re the one that mentioned it) that the height and sound are not really in line with a big scythe. Makes me wonder if they just used a generic blade against concrete sound or if it really will be a sword of some sort. I still have my money on scythe but it’s possible he picked up a claymore or something.
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