FFXIV: Limited Job and why it doesn't work

[Vyrerus]

I disagree heavily. Blue Mage is not broken or a mistake in its current iteration. It enjoys the powers, like its instant death spells, because they didn't want to restrict it and be unfaithful to it as a job. In order to implement it in this game at all, that meant having to restrict it to be an expansion level tier behind.

If they made it into a regular job, they would take away everything that is enjoyable about it, and it would just be a generic caster, and it would likely lose spells that are favored entirely. I can understand why people want it to be a normal job, as it seems to be player/human nature to want to main a specific job that you have an affinity for, but sadly this is not the FF online for that. If you want to play an FF where BLU is king, you have options. FFV, FFVI, FFIX, and FFXI are all games where BLU was implemented and it is insanely powerful to the point of breaking the game if used with full knowledge. FFXI is even an MMO.

Also keep in mind that all of your arguments about BLU needing PF and other players and the hot moment is wrong, though perhaps true in the past. Now that it has Basic Instinct, a BLU with Basic Instinct active is effectively as powerful as 4 BLUs without it, only stymied by needing to constantly heal themselves. This lets BLU acquire 102 of the current 104 spells solo. While you can't finish your Blue Mage log that way, part of your argument undercuts itself by saying that the BLU content is a, "Why bother" or a "why bother more than once" kind of content. There isn't much gained other than completionism by doing the BLU log, so it's just something to get friends together for if you're bored with nothing better to do, anyway.

In its current form BLU is insanely fun. More fun to me than most of the battle content, due to its high power. I would never want to see it become a normal job, because it would lose this side of itself due to limited development time.

As far as the Masked Carnivale goes, in the modern era of FFXIV, the developers are afraid of corporate. They want to please a wider audience, and this means trying to make content that is both challenging but approachable. Which means that most content cannot be truly challenging, as the lower end players will be turned away if it is.

Because BLU is meant to be able to do everything, in order to be a faithful representation of its roots, it doesn't mesh well with most people. The majority of people who play FFXIV want no responsibility and no thought in their job class and play. They want to press maybe 5 buttons at most in a set order, and then turn their brains off. That is ultimately what you are asking them to turn BLU into, and that would be a travesty.

[Curisu]

In my eyes blue needs to be able to join deep dungeons and ultimates. BUT when there is a blu in group, you don't get the rare titles or any loot from the ultimates.

It would be nice to have the chance to do it as Blu, just for fun without a big reward. (Maybe hidden archivements for blu only ultimate clears)

[Brightamethyst]

Limited jobs as a concept are fine. Not everything has to be viable in all situations. It's okay to have self contained side content. It may be disappointing for everyone who wanted BLU to be a standard job, but that doesn't somehow make it a broken feature.

[ReiMakoto]

blue mage has a potential as a normal job after slightly adjustment about roles job

This, especially after the most recent update. You could legit just make a duty set out of its current optimal dps setup and have that be a normal job, the rotation is legitimately fun and engaging now, even with no job gauge . Tank and healer duty sets would be more difficult but again not impossible.

[Stormfur]

I keep hoping they'll see that BLU is a lot like the Summoner/Scholar branch. An experiment, but one that didn't really turn out the way it was planned. We'd like BLU to come play with the rest of us.

[Stepjam]

Honestly I think BLU is in a pretty good spot right now. It's got a wide range of utility, it's got a spell that lets you solo dungeons now, lots of good stuff. I'd say it could perhaps use a few more tank skills since you are still pretty squishy even with a tank build.

Perhaps they could/should add more long term incentives to keep people playing BLU for longer, but otherwise I got no complaints about it. And it's not like BLU content is 100% dead, you can generally get a couple people in PF to run dungeons to get spells.

[Seraphor]

"Hi, I've spent 5 hours writing a thesis on why you shouldn't enjoy something, please pay attention to me."

[_Koneko_]

the instant death spells would be a valid point if was not for anything you want to actually them on being immune :P

[Mariel_Crystallie]

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I agree on some point , but still as one of BLU lovers I still want to see it as normal job instead limiting this job into some sub-content that not really important except breaking the FATE event like yokai / speed run farming mog tome event.

the biggest problem is currently BLU have almost 0 attention from developer team , like the current update ( 1 Carnival stage only? bruh ) , as for clearing savage SB tier only rewarding title I can understand they might want lock something again on the future (like morbol mount req. COB & Alexander savage clear) . And all of that end-game content as BLU I mention above has almost 0 replay-ability ( if you say "you can farm glamour from old savage with it" I will just use main job and undersize it easier that way ).

The current BLU is Fun! Yes it is fun , but in what content that we can bring in the "FUN" we got... even now as lv 70 BLU we still can't access the big major content on 70 like Eureka / Ultimates or even the deep dungeons.... all of your hardwork collecting those skills , again only for 1 time achievement then do what except breaking the Event like mog tome or FATE event like yokai? .

Also last thing... it's really annoying to keep extra gear slot 10 level below my main job only exclusive for BLU while if BLU was not limited they can share the gear with other caster on same level...

[ReiMakoto]

I disagree heavily. Blue Mage is not broken or a mistake in its current iteration. It enjoys the powers, like its instant death spells, because they didn't want to restrict it and be unfaithful to it as a job. In order to implement it in this game at all, that meant having to restrict it to be an expansion level tier behind.
If they made it into a regular job, they would take away everything that is enjoyable about it, and it would just be a generic caster, and it would likely lose spells that are favored entirely. I can understand why people want it to be a normal job, as it seems to be player/human nature to want to main a specific job that you have an affinity for, but sadly this is not the FF online for that. If you want to play an FF where BLU is king, you have options. FFV, FFVI, FFIX, and FFXI are all games where BLU was implemented and it is insanely powerful to the point of breaking the game if used with full knowledge. FFXI is even an MMO.

Also keep in mind that all of your arguments about BLU needing PF and other players and the hot moment is wrong, though perhaps true in the past. Now that it has Basic Instinct, a BLU with Basic Instinct active is effectively as powerful as 4 BLUs without it, only stymied by needing to constantly heal themselves. This lets BLU acquire 102 of the current 104 spells solo. While you can't finish your Blue Mage log that way, part of your argument undercuts itself by saying that the BLU content is a, "Why bother" or a "why bother more than once" kind of content. There isn't much gained other than completionism by doing the BLU log, so it's just something to get friends together for if you're bored with nothing better to do, anyway.

In its current form BLU is insanely fun. More fun to me than most of the battle content, due to its high power. I would never want to see it become a normal job, because it would lose this side of itself due to limited development time.

As far as the Masked Carnivale goes, in the modern era of FFXIV, the developers are afraid of corporate. They want to please a wider audience, and this means trying to make content that is both challenging but approachable. Which means that most content cannot be truly challenging, as the lower end players will be turned away if it is.

Because BLU is meant to be able to do everything, in order to be a faithful representation of its roots, it doesn't mesh well with most people. The majority of people who play FFXIV want no responsibility and no thought in their job class and play. They want to press maybe 5 buttons at most in a set order, and then turn their brains off. That is ultimately what you are asking them to turn BLU into, and that would be a travesty.

I disagree a lot with most of what you say here. This version of BLU isn't somehow more faithful to the rest of the BLU's in the franchise, in most of those games BLU would be considered a "generic caster" by your metric just with a different way of learning. As it stands when BLU raiding atm you are basically just a normal job 90%+ of the time, "pressing your 5 buttons" or whatever absurd reductive argument you've come up with. The current trend of BLU updates has been making BLU MORE "generic" (by your standards), adding in spells that make them fit in more with the rest of the game and fleshing out their rotations.