Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
Everyone has a different line when it comes to what they find acceptable from other players, but these standards aren't enforced by the game. Given the long time limits and easy content the game seems designed to accommodate MUCH less.

So, I do think it's fair to say that if you have a hard standard and can't tolerate less, you'll need to create your own group to ensure that standard is met. I'm not saying that to be derisive or imply your standards are unreasonable; I'm just stating the reality of the situation.


Everything impacts the group if we're going to be obtuse about it. Bad WIFI; old PC; classes that don't perform as well in dungeons as others; etc.

If you want to control external factors like individual playstyles or capability then you need to make your own group, or get a consensus for a vote kick; there's just no other way. If you care how other people play you need to create a situation where you control the other people you're playing with.

If you want to hold only yourself to a lower standard, however, you can do that and the game will accommodate it by throwing you very easy content with ample time to complete it. It's not your job to meet other peoples arbitrary standards, because everyone you group with will be different and expect different things.
I agree if you run into someone that does not meet your standards or is a general inconvenience then they should be voted out the group, or play with friends etc. . . I also just feel the same should be promoted on the other side.

My point is more so about the double standard. It is okay to tell people who have higher standards to queue with friends. Though people with lower standards are told do not worry about it content is easy enough. People should not remove you for playing poorly that is abuse. People should just deal with it.

I have never understood this mindset. If people tell others to find like minded individuals to avoid conflict and issues regarding higher standards same should be said to those with lower standards. Instead of vilify those that remove said players from groups. It is a subjective standard on either front but for some reason when it comes to playing poorly you run into much moral grandstanding. All I am saying is suggestions that are good for us with higher standards should be just as good for those with lower standards.