Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
Everyone has a different line when it comes to what they find acceptable from other players, but these standards aren't enforced by the game. Given the long time limits and easy content the game seems designed to accommodate MUCH less.

So, I do think it's fair to say that if you have a hard standard and can't tolerate less, you'll need to create your own group to ensure that standard is met. I'm not saying that to be derisive or imply your standards are unreasonable; I'm just stating the reality of the situation.


Everything impacts the group if we're going to be obtuse about it. Bad WIFI; old PC; classes that don't perform as well in dungeons as others; etc.

If you want to control external factors like individual playstyles or capability then you need to make your own group, or get a consensus for a vote kick; there's just no other way. If you care how other people play you need to create a situation where you control the other people you're playing with.

If you want to hold only yourself to a lower standard, however, you can do that and the game will accommodate it by throwing you very easy content with ample time to complete it. It's not your job to meet other peoples arbitrary standards, because everyone you group with will be different and expect different things.
This is where ill disagree only because there are forms of "casual" content where people do need to know their jobs or it does severely impact others. An example i gave earlier was Titania. It was a major wall for people because it had an actual dps check. If people cant clear it they cant progress with the msq they love so much. So are you saying everyone should just start making a pf to clear a casual trial because other people dont want to take 10 mins to look at a guide or they for some reaosn cant tell an IL385 weapon is better than an IL 290 one? I only care how other people play when its affecting others. Thats the reason why its such a problem in a multiplayer game. No other mmo has as severe of a problem as this game does in regards to this and its the enabling culture that makes it so. People just want to sweep the problems under the rug instead of address it like threads like this attempt to do.